Does God will to heal ALL who come to Him for healing?

[gdemoss]

If it were Gods will for all to be healed who come to him then anyone who ever asked him to be healed would be regardless of any circumstance or condition. Anyone who ever prayed to him should instantly be healed. Though it be Gods will that all be healed, the fact remains that all who come to him for healing do not end up healed.

Gary

[carlos123]

Was the fact that Jesus healed ALL who came to Him for healing an indication that He wills to heal all who come to Him for healing today?

That is the essential question.

First...it IS a fact that He healed ALL who came to Him for healing. Here is a representative sample of verses that show that (along with some other verses that seem pertinent)...bolding and comments in parentheses are mine. All verses are from the AKJV of the bible.

Matthew 8:16

When the even was come, they brought to him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:

Matthew 12:15

But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from there: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;

Matthew 14:14

And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed their sick (all implied).

Luke 4:40

Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them to him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them.

Luke 6:19

And the whole multitude sought to touch him: for there went virtue out of him, and healed them all.

Luke 9:11

And the people, when they knew it, followed him: and he received them, and spoke to them of the kingdom of God, and healed them that had need of healing (all implied).

Acts 5:15

So that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them. There came also a multitude out of the cities round about to Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one (this clearly shows that what Jesus did while here in the flesh He continued to do through his disciples or at least Peter).

Acts 8:5

Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ to them. And the people with one accord gave heed to those things which Philip spoke, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed (while this does not imply all necessarily I wanted to show by this verse that it wasn't just Peter or Paul who healed people).

Acts 28:8

And it came to pass, that the father of Publius lay sick of a fever and of a bloody flux: to whom Paul entered in, and prayed, and laid his hands on him, and healed him. So when this was done, others also, which had diseases in the island, came, and were healed (all implied also it is interesting that this shows that such times of healing DID occur during the time of Acts both at the beginning and toward the end of the time it describes):

Is it biblical to say that Jesus Christ WILLED to heal ALL who came to Him for healing?

I think the answer to that is YES.

How else does one explain that He did in fact heal ALL...IF it was not His WILL that ALL be healed?

But is it still His WILL to heal all today?

Or was that just for then?

Carlos

[carlos123]

If it were Gods will for all to be healed who come to him then ... Anyone who ever prayed to him should instantly be healed. Though it be Gods will that all be healed, the fact remains that all who come to him for healing do not end up healed.

That can be explained I think by the equally true fact that not every one who comes to Him for healing is coming to Him in faith believing that He WILL heal them.

In other words if it is done to us according to our faith and if we do not believe (i.e. have faith) that He WILL heal us and that He wills to heal all then we won't receive a healing.

If we say that it is God's will for ALL to be healed but come to Him without believing that He WILL heal us then what we say we believe (that He wills to heal ALL) is contradictory to what we in fact believe (that He won't heal us).

If it is God's will that ALL be healed then I see no reason to believe that He won't heal ALL for how can the will of God be thwarted IF we are coming to Him for healing based on an understanding of that will, with a right heart, right motives, and faith?

That would be like saying that we believe that God WILLS to save ALL who come to Him through Jesus in the Gospel but not believing that He will save us in particular. A contradiction showing that we doubt the very thing we say we believe (that He WILLS to save ALL).

Carlos

[gdemoss]

Amen.

[Jayyycuuup]

One thing in particular I must point out is what about the 700 club ? Do you ever/ have you ever watched that ? God has blessed them and many have found healing..... How can you explain that, other than saying that through prayer God grants us miracles.....

Absolutely Jacob. I do hope I have not left you with the impression that I don't think God CAN heal people. He most certainly can and does at times heal people. For sure.

My stumbling block, if you will, is not whether or not He CAN heal but rather whether or not He WILL heal. Me and anyone I pray for.

If I can bring myself to believe that He WILL heal I can then reach out by faith to bring into existence the healing that I seek.

But I have to be able to believe that He WILL heal based on something other than that He CAN heal.

That He CAN heal is not enough of a basis for me to believe that He WILL heal.

I hope that makes sense.

Carlos

Carlos I must ask, in Healing, or prayer do you have any doubts? Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what it appears to me. If this is so than lay all doubts at the feet of Christ, cleanse your mind of all doubt ! This is something that the devil is very fond of, like he did with Eve. Questioned Gods word and put enough doubt in her mind that she was consumed in his lie. Doubt is something that we all must overcome. It's not enough to know, or think that God is going to do it, you must be sure, positive that what you have asked will be done. I had troubles with this and honestly sometimes do, question why God would answer me, but reassure myself and tell God my doubts....once this is done all those doubts leave my mind. Its not so much a lack of faith rather a lack of knowing.... Stand strong in your faith and know that whatever you ask in Christs name WILL be done.

[Jayyycuuup]

I understand it to mean that we not only must believe he can but that he will. Even in the passage quoted above about the two blind men. They cried out for mercy. Why does one cry out for mercy if they don't believe the one who they believe can give it will?

Exactly.

Does God will to heal ALL who come to Him for healing? Great question. One I believe can be answered No. God resists the proud but gives grace unto the humble. One who comes in the wrong spirit will be denied just as quickly as John the Baptists refused to baptize the pharisees without works meet for repentance.

I do believe it is true that one who comes to Jesus in the wrong spirit will be denied...but how does that translate into a definitive No answer to the question posed?

Are you saying Gary that to come to God in faith that He WILL heal them based on the belief that He WILLS to heal ALL is to come to Him in the wrong spirit?

Aside from that, if indeed that is what you are saying, are there any verses that support the idea that God does not WILL to heal ALL?

I mean in view of the fact that Jesus DID in fact heal ALL who came to Him while He was on this earth?

I am not saying that such automatically means that He wills to heal ALL today but it is significant I think as something to consider in trying to find an answer to the question I posed.

Carlos

Just Like Christ, He died for all its just a matter of accepting and BELIEVING that he did so.... This must play in your heart and you MUST believe it in-order to receive eternal life.

Lost ? Let me explain.....

God gives us the opportunity to connect with him in prayer (Christ died for us to give us the opportunity to eternal life) and to ask him things, weather it be understanding, or healing.... You first must Believe, and Know that it will be done (You must believe in you HEART that Christ died on the cross for our sins, and God rose him from the dead 3 days after) Once you have fulfilled these things in your heart, you have no doubt.. Like Christ dying on the cross, if you wish your prayers to be heard you must believe in your Heart, and soul... For then no doubt will be in your mind, because your heart knows better !

Hope this helps.... If you wish me to supply scripture play by play I would be more than happy to... I am well familiar with the scripture that supports these things so I figured you would know likewise, if not that is perfectly okay.... I want you to know from scripture not from me... So either way Im happy ! God bless

[carlos123]

Carlos I must ask, in Healing, or prayer do you have any doubts?

I am a very open fellow Jacob (sometimes too much so I think) so just for future reference...please feel free to ask of me anything that is on your heart to ask.

Regarding your question above..yes. I do doubt.

With respect to healing, though I see how Jesus healed ALL, I still can't wrap my head around believing that He WILLS to heal me now.

I don't know why.

It's just so hard for me to fathom such a thing.

I know, in my head at least, that if Jesus WILLS something it is a reflection of the Father's WILL for Jesus never, ever did or said anything other than that what He saw His Father do or say.

So whatever Jesus WILLS has got to be the Father's WILL too.

Yet...I just can't bring myself to believe that God WILL heal me (like of a toothache for example...which I have and have had for a few days). I don't know why. I just can't seem to embrace that.

I guess I am still wondering if it really is for today or not. Or whether the revealed WILL of God in Jesus was just something that happened for back then and not for today.

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what it appears to me. If this is so than lay all doubts at the feet of Christ, cleanse your mind of all doubt ! This is something that the devil is very fond of, like he did with Eve. Questioned Gods word and put enough doubt in her mind that she was consumed in his lie. Doubt is something that we all must overcome. It's not enough to know, or think that God is going to do it, you must be sure, positive that what you have asked will be done. I had troubles with this and honestly sometimes do, question why God would answer me, but reassure myself and tell God my doubts....once this is done all those doubts leave my mind. Its not so much a lack of faith rather a lack of knowing.... Stand strong in your faith and know that whatever you ask in Christs name WILL be done.

Those are good thoughts Jacob! I will continue to bring my doubts before God. Please pray for me that I would have faith of the kind you seem to have.

I was just about to post some verses I was reading. I think there is real meat here. Bolding is mine.

Mark 11:19

And when even was come, he went out of the city. And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. And Peter calling to remembrance said to him, Master, behold, the fig tree which you cursed is withered away. And Jesus answering said to them, Have faith in God. For truly I say to you, That whoever shall say to this mountain, Be you removed, and be you cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he said shall come to pass; he shall have whatever he said. Therefore I say to you, What things soever you desire, when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you shall have them.

These are absolutely incredible verses!

I don't know why we Christians so readily ignore what they say under an avalanche of what I can only take as excuses for why they couldn't possibly mean what they so plainly say.

A couple of things to note.

Notice that faith is required. Faith of a kind that does not doubt (but then again that IS what faith is...is it not?).

Faith of a kind that takes hold of that for which we pray and looks upon it as a present possession. Before we ever see it at all.

Belief that we are going to receive, not that we might receive, but rather that we WILL receive what we are praying for.

How can such faith be?

It can only be I think by KNOWING that God WILLS to do something such that in our KNOWING we rise up to take hold of what we understand God to WILL through faith. To make it so.

Yet there is also the little phrase "What things soever you desire" which implies that we can pray for anything at all like a brand new Cadillac and receive it too.

I mean how could Jesus have known it was the will of the Father that the fig tree dry up such that He prayed for it to be? I don't know.

That IS the example Jesus used to illustrate what He was saying to the disciples.

So I am not entirely certain that the will of God needs to be known necessarily.

It's still a bit confusing for me.

Carlos

[carlos123]

Hope this helps.... If you wish me to supply scripture play by play I would be more than happy to... I am well familiar with the scripture that supports these things so I figured you would know likewise, if not that is perfectly okay.... I want you to know from scripture not from me... So either way Im happy ! God bless

What you share is absolutely helpful Jacob. For sure.

There is no need to recite lots of verses on my account bro as I know that what you say is true about the need to have faith in salvation. Such that we don't doubt that God WILLS to save us through the Gospel. That is the only way we can have assurance and confidence to approach and receive forgiveness of our sins. By rising up to believe (i.e. have faith) that God WILLS to save us, even us in particular.

Apart from such faith, non-doubting faith, how can we possibly be saved? We can't.

He who comes to God MUST believe that He IS and that He IS (not that He might be) a rewarder of those who come to Him.

Carlos

[carlos123]

I think the following verse relates to what Jesus said in Mark 11:19. Bolding is mine.

1 John 5:14 (AKJV)

And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he hears us: And if we know that he hear us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

It's like it expands on Mark 11 to make it clear that God is not predisposed to give us whatever we ask as in a brand new Cadillac or whatever. But that He is rather predisposed to grant us petitions that are according to his will.

Meaning that we must know what His WILL is in order to ask in accordance to His WILL.

So according to this IF we know that it is God's WILL to heal ALL then to ask for a healing IS to ask in accordance with His WILL such that we WILL receive that which we are asking for and WILL be healed!

Interesting.

Carlos

[Jayyycuuup]

Those are good thoughts Jacob! I will continue to bring my doubts before God. Please pray for me that I would have faith of the kind you seem to have.

I was just about to post some verses I was reading. I think there is real meat here. Bolding is mine.

God has performed some miraculous things in my life, so it's not so much having faith its knowing. I most certainly will pray for you !

These are absolutely incredible verses!don't know why we Christians so readily ignore what they say under an avalanche of what I can only take as excuses for why they couldn't possibly mean what they so plainly say. A couple of things to note.Notice that faith is required. Faith of a kind that does not doubt (but then again that IS what faith is...is it not?). Faith of a kind that takes hold of that for which we pray and looks upon it as a present possession. Before we ever see it at all.Belief that we are going to receive, not that we might receive, but rather that we WILL receive what we are praying for. How can such faith be? It can only be I think by KNOWING that God WILLS to do something such that in our KNOWING we rise up to take hold of what we understand God to WILL through faith. To make it so. Yet there is also the little phrase "What things soever you desire" which implies that we can pray for anything at all like a brand new Cadillac and receive it too. I mean how could Jesus have known it was the will of the Father that the fig tree dry up such that He prayed for it to be? I don't know. That IS the example Jesus used to illustrate what He was saying to the disciples. So I am not entirely certain that the will of God needs to be known necessarily. It's still a bit confusing for me. Carlos

LOL Boy are those verses Meaty !! Pay close attention to the meaning of those verses, it seems like your starting to understand what it means... If you don't mind I would like to tell you a story.

3 years ago, It was dinner time, chewing my last piece of Gum (sounds odd lol bear with me !) I was like, still wanna chew gum so I put it on my dresser... Washed up and ate. Monkeyed around outside for a bit and cam back inside and remembered about my gum. Stuck it in my mouth and just happened to bite down in the right place. A shock went through my jaw, took out my gum and lead was strung throughout my Gum. (No idea how it got there, even to this day) A piece of lead was lodged into my gum. My family was going through a money crisis and did not have dental insurance. I prayed to God the day before the removal that he would take it out. I went to bed upset asking and praying to God why he did not remove it. I said God, I have faith that your going to do it so why wont you ! I went to bed upset, I vaguely remembered (I remember now) choking in my sleep. Did not think much of it and did not bother to look at my gum since I had the appointment. Went to the dentist, he dug in my gum, saw the swelling but nothing was there, he said he did not know why...and off I went lol... Little did I know that God did remove it, it was lodged in my gum ! about 1/4 of a stick of lead. It was removed and I thanked God, little did I know that he answered my prayer.... Odd story I know lol

When it comes to prayer, and miracles, it is apart of his plan lol... He knows all and sees all. He can tell us the beginning from the end. I dont want to confuse you so I will stop there, lol But to us God will interrupt his plan and grant us our Prayers.... Don't mix in reality with fantasy lol, praying for something and wanting something are two different things maybe God would be humorous and give you a matchbox car lol But on that note your right God would give you that, although I dont know anyone who has enough faith that God would do such a thing... who knows, only God !

As for Christ, He and God are one. The word Is God (Jesus is God) John 1:1 Kinda like how Christ was able to walk on water, and heal people, He is God ! For they are one in the same !