Why Gun Sales Are Booming

[other one]

Pat that all blends into Agenda 21..... and I do think you are right on in your thinking.

[other one]

Pat that all blends into Agenda 21..... and I do think you are right on in your thinking.

Because there is a Bison on this site.

and isn't he a handsome one. I would hope that no one would shoot such a fine specimen

[The_Patriot21]

Not correct, its been in the makings. The only reason it hasnt been signed yet, is low and behold, our house and senate have actually been doing their jobs for once.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/27/un-fails-to-reach-deal-on-global-arms-trade-treaty-as-us-asks-for-more-time/

Im not sure I believe in all that "agenda 21" stuff that other one has been preaching about or not (I havent seen enough evidence one way or the other to make up my mind) but Obama trying to get the US to sign UNs small arms treaty, is a signed, documented fact-not speculation. Its something he hasnt succeeded at, and I dont plan on giving him 4 more years to try.

[The_Patriot21]

I did-did you? it was indeed something Obama was pushing, and the senate, so far has shut it down-I said that in the original post.

[The_Patriot21]

Of course katyann-their not going to publicly admit thats what it says, then there would be war. The first was to point out that congress was considering some sort of treaty-not necessarily its contents. The second, from fox news, describes the senates reaction to the treaty and concerns that it may not be constitional-if it is, like you claim, harmless, the senate, wouldn't be throwing a fit over it. Theyre throwing a fit, because obviously there are things in that treaty, that do contradict our rights, that they havent released to the public yet. Is say kudos to that 51 senators that pitched the fit.

I dont trust anything that comes out of obamas office as truth-they have proven how dishonest they have been over and over, and the UN is far worse from what I have seen.

[other one]

Well, you

Not correct, its been in the makings. The only reason it hasnt been signed yet, is low and behold, our house and senate have actually been doing their jobs for once.

http://www.snopes.co...ns/untreaty.asp

http://www.foxnews.c...-for-more-time/

Im not sure I believe in all that "agenda 21" stuff that other one has been preaching about or not (I havent seen enough evidence one way or the other to make up my mind) but Obama trying to get the US to sign UNs small arms treaty, is a signed, documented fact-not speculation. Its something he hasnt succeeded at, and I dont plan on giving him 4 more years to try.

You might try reading it.

Then look into the NGO's that are busy running around getting Cities and even State governments to incorporate the agenda into local laws and regulations

http://www.icleiusa.org/about-iclei/members/member-list

This site is an active member list of just one NGO called ICLIE. They have some interesting ideas...... they attended one of our neighborhood watch meetings trying to get a foot hold into our small city. They did have groups in Oklahoma City and Edmond for a time until people understood what was going on..... They dumped ICLIE but not their ideas.

[joi]

Is this what is being voted on in Louisiana that they are in such a controversy about?

[The_Patriot21]

Ive seen that other. Like I said, I am undecided on the agenda 21 stuff-theres some interesting stuff on that site, enough to make me curious, but not enough to fully believe in it yet.

[The_Patriot21]

num, there is no lie here-the president, didnt in the first two years, because theres no way he could have fought the NRA over gun laws, and congress over obamacare. Obamas no fool, he wont fight wars on two fronts at once. Just because he hasnt tried to remove gun control yet doesnt mean its not on his agenda-and if he can get the UN to help him he will. And technically speaking, Obama wants to do away with the entire constition, not just the second amendment. I think hes even said so a few times on national news. And a president, who is built on lies, and lies so constantly, well ya theres going to be lies about him, because Im beginning to wonder if he knows what the truth is, not alone anyone else.

[The_Patriot21]

Well, I didnt realize I really needed to link something, thats quite obvious-hes contempt for the constition has been very obvious since the beginning, and anyone who actually cares to follow what he does behind the scenes can see that (or even up front for that matter) heres just one article listing several of the "ways" he likes to ignore the constition.