who is Melchizedek?

[gdemoss]

Yup, Melchizedek was merely a human being who was a priest of the most high God during the time he lived upon earth.

[He giveth more grace]

Mel was Shem, Adam's son, according to the ancient rabbi's.

[Mcgyver]

Curious...where did you come across that?

[He giveth more grace]

Curious...where did you come across that?

Duh, old rabblnical teachings.

[gdemoss]

Mel was Shem, Adam's son, according to the ancient rabbi's.

Adam's immediate son was named Seth. Shem was Noah's immediate son.

[He giveth more grace]

Adam's immediate son was named Seth. Shem was Noah's immediate son.

Gary, I just came home from eating two plates of Chinese food, it made me sleepy, it's my bed time. Getting some ice cream, watch a little TV and going to sleep - bug me in the morning.

[Massorite]

This is all the Bible tells us about Melchizedek:

Gen. 14

17 Then after his [Abraham's] return from the defeat of Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him, the king of Sodom went out to meet him at the valley of Shaveh (that is, the King's Valley ). 18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine ; now he was a priest of God Most High. 19 He blessed him and said, "Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth ; 20 And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand." He gave him a tenth of all.

So, all we see here is that he was both a king-priest, and his priesthood was to God Most High.

Then Psalm 110

4 The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind, "You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek."

What is the order of Melchizedek? Based only on what Scripture tells us, the order seems to be a priest who is a king:

He is the king of Salem, which means "peace; so he is the King of Peace.

And He is a Priest to God Most High.

You are not correct. You missed what the word of God says in the book of Hebrews chapter 7. Which by the way is the number that represents the perfection of God. So I say again. If Melchizedek had no mother, had no father and had no kin folk, who had no beginning of days and no ending of days then he was not born of a woman and was either God, or he was Jesus Christ who is the one and only King of Righteousness.

One should never make any kind of declaration about the word of God unless he/she has done a proper in depth research of all of the facts and all of the scripture needed to make such declarations.

[Massorite]

The name "Melchizedek, means "The Prince/King of Righteousness or The Prince/King of Peace/Salem. In the book of Hebrews chapter 7 in verse 1 it says the Melchizedek, is the priest of the Most High God, In verse 3 it says that Melchizedek is without Father or Mother or genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of days of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

So what can we groom from all of this information?

#1. First of all there is only one King of Righteous and his name is Jesus Christ.

#2. We know from the word of God that Melchizedek did not have a Father or a Mother or any relatives, Which means that He was not concieved like you and I were, He was created by God without using a humasn to do it.

#3. He has no beginning of days and no ending of life, which means that He has always been and will live forever, is still alive even from the days of Abraham and will never die. And to this very day still remains the Priest to the Most High God.

And lastly, when we give our money up on Sunday or any other day, who are we giving it to? Non other than the Most High God. The word of God says that "if you have seen me you have seen the Father. (Words of Jesus Christ) So who was it that Abraham gave a tenth of all he took from the kings who took his brother.

The Conclusion?

Melchizedek was Jesus Christ who was created by God, who has alway been and always will be, who is God incarnate as we know him, who is and always has been the one and only King of Righteousness, who is and always will be the King of the city of Jerusalem which is the city of Peace, who is and always will be the Priest to the Most High God.

A lot of people have trouble with this bit of truth but what the hay. I am not the paper boy, all I did was research the scriptures given to all us about Melchizedek and the bible says what it says. Who am I to argue with what the word of God says?

I must respectfully disagree with the conclusion...

A passing familiarity with what is know as the "Rabbinical form of argument" (for this book is written to the Hebrews by one who is obviously a trained rabbinical scholar) **I think** will show that the author is presenting Melchizedek in the manner of a "typology" in presenting Jesus as King and High Priest.

In all of scripture for example, aside from Jesus there is only one figure who is both a king and a priest...and that is Melchizedek. Vs 17 serves to show that Jesus is both Priest and King after the order of Melchizedek.

I believe that Vs 3 which says: without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

Merely refers to the fact that there is no genealogy recorded, and as there is no record of his death...he remains a priest...once again a typology.

I'd point out that Jesus has a genealogy, and this genealogy is extremely important within a Jewish context in showing that Jesus is Messiah...His genealogy is recorded in all the synoptic gospels. Perhaps this is the reason that the genealogy of Melchizedek is omitted, but that's just a guess...

So...I don't think that this was an example of a Theophany (or Christophany as it is known today), but rather an example of a man who was used as a type, or foreshadowing of the role of Messiah.

JMO

You should be arguing with God and not me, because I didn't write what the word of God says about Melchizedek. God did, however if you can prove me wrong by using scripture alone then I would gladly reconsider my conclusions

You based your conclusions on this - Theophany (or Christophany as it is known today) and Jewish context which do more to confuse those who are uneducated in context and Christophany, which are some 99% of the people who read the word of God. Any body who has at the least a rudimentry education can read and understand the bible because that is how simple God has made it to read. But folks like you add confusion to that which God has made simple and you know who the author of confusion is right? Satan is the author of confusion.

As for your assertion that Jesus had some geneology, we should remember the the word of God says that God simply spoke and the word became flesh. It had nothing to do with the sperm and the egg binding together like when we were concieved, and the blood line of Jesse was only extended to Mary and not Joseph. Even Jesus himself said "I have no family" when the people around him thaqt his family was looking for him and he didn't go to them, did he?

[Massorite]

Yup, Melchizedek was merely a human being who was a priest of the most high God during the time he lived upon earth.

You got that wrong! there is not one single place in scripture that says the Mel. was human but there is scripture that says that he has no beginning and no ending of days and humans do not live for ever.

[nebula]

Massorite, think about this a bit, ok?

Was Jesus born twice? Or did He go back in time? Or did He incarnate Himself without a birth?

Did He live forever? Or did He die? How did He become king of a city then cease to be king? Why did He only rule a city?

Seriously, to make the claim you are making, you have to factor in what was going on...how He came, why He came, where did He go?

Or you consider what Mcgyver said: "A passing familiarity with what is know as the "Rabbinical form of argument" (for this book is written to the Hebrews by one who is obviously a trained rabbinical scholar) **I think** will show that the author is presenting Melchizedek in the manner of a "typology" in presenting Jesus as King and High Priest."

This fits a whole lot better with the rest of Scripture. The interpretation you gave creates a whole lot of puzzles and confusion.