So men and make-up....

[Mcgyver]

These days, goth men wear make up, but don't want to be seen as women.

Understood...but the pic that the OP posted (since deleted) as an example of what he saw was that of a transvestite.

[Fez]

It doesn't matter what he looked like.

Jesus said, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." ....... John 7:24

Actually, it does matter what he looked like. Revolutionist90 got caught in an embarrassing situation because of how this guy mad himself look, and he's been trying to process that.

So embarrassment is a justifiable reason to change or ignore scripture?

And I still stand by the claim that anyone - man or woman - who covers their face with that kind of (bright colors) and that much make-up is trying to hide (seriously, the person is in essence painting a mask on their face).

Can't argue with this. Make-up alters facial appearance. If it didn't, people wouldn't use it.

So yes, his mind is twisted - but "twisted" doesn't have to be a derogatory term. I've had a chronic depression problem my whole life; if someone pointed out that my mind is twisted, I would have to agree with them.

Semantics.

Something is wrong inside a person to want to hide their true face like that.

With the exception of children, every woman I know has something wrong inside them because

they all wear makeup. Every man that has facial hair has a twisted mind because beards and

mustaches hide their true face. Even people who wear glasses, according to your line of thinking,

have a twisted mind because glasses do alter the appearance of the face.

Interesting thought process, but I don't believe it trumps scripture.

Do not judge according to appearance.

With the exception of children, every woman I know has something wrong inside them because they all wear makeup.

Just for the record (and I know you are just making a point), my wife wears no makeup at all, (not even lipstick) she never has. Not because she has some sort of objection to it, but because she just does not think it necessary, nor does she enjoy the process of applying it, or taking it off.

The fact that she is the most beautiful woman in the world may just have something to do with it, but that's just my opinion......

[~candice~]

I refuse to wear make up, but it is more that I can't be bothered and hate the way society has a role for women as "the beautiful things". I don't think make up is that beautiful, to me it screams "like me for what I look like!". Meh, can't be bothered with that stuff. I understand not all women have that motivation, but there you go... that's my motivation. I just don't want to feed society and it's stupid demands. Nothing really spiritual there.

[GoldenEagle]

These days, goth men wear make up, but don't want to be seen as women.

Understood...but the pic that the OP posted (since deleted) as an example of what he saw was that of a transvestite.

It is my understanding men also wear make-up for pretty much any movie (as an actor) or news cast.

Last week we went to a pizza place and the guy who took our order was clearly a homosexual. He had long hair, long nails, and a touch of make-up. My first instinct was to try to avoid him as that is the "Christian" thing to do right? Nope. We, my wife and I, actually talked to him for a little bit. He really made our son (just a baby) laugh as he made silly faces. We prayed before our meal so he obviously knew our belief system. Perhaps we were able to influence him to help him see we valued him as a person. Maybe that's a seed that one day when we go back we can share the Gospel with him.

Just a few thoughts...

God bless,

GE

[nebula]

It doesn't matter what he looked like.

Jesus said, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." ....... John 7:24

Actually, it does matter what he looked like. Revolutionist90 got caught in an embarrassing situation because of how this guy mad himself look, and he's been trying to process that.

So embarrassment is a justifiable reason to change or ignore scripture?

Man, have you considered the context of Jesus words?

John 7

19 Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?" 20 "You are demon-possessed," the crowd answered. "Who is trying to kill you?" 21 Jesus said to them, "I did one miracle, and you are all astonished. 22 Yet, because Moses gave you circumcision (though actually it did not come from Moses, but from the patriarchs), you circumcise a child on the Sabbath. 23 Now if a child can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing the whole man on the Sabbath? 24 Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment."

What "appearances" was Jesus talking about?

Something is wrong inside a person to want to hide their true face like that.

With the exception of children, every woman I know has something wrong inside them because they all wear makeup. Every man that has facial hair has a twisted mind because beards and mustaches hide their true face. Even people who wear glasses, according to your line of thinking, have a twisted mind because glasses do alter the appearance of the face.

You're being ridiculous, man.

Interesting thought process, but I don't believe it trumps scripture.

You need to defend your claim that the OP was violating Scripture by trying to process what happened.

And how is he to learn if he doesn't discuss with others what he cannot figure out himself?

Do not judge according to appearance.

What did Jesus mean by "appearance" in what He spoke?

[OneLight]

Do not judge according to appearance.

Really? What do you think of a man with long hair?

[Guest man]

Do not judge according to appearance.

Really? What do you think of a man with long hair?

I think he's a man with long hair.

[OneLight]

Do not judge according to appearance.

Really? What do you think of a man with long hair?

I think he's a man with long hair.

That is the best dodge I have seen you make so far.

I just remember the many discussions we have had where you were so against man having long hair, yet you say we should not judge a man who wears makeup. Really confusing to me what you really believe. Nothing more, nothing less ...

[back2thebible]

satan comes to steal, kill and destroy, it is very sad when I see a man whom satan has stolen his identity, and in the end most likely will cause this mans destruction, better than making light of this man's effeminate deception, it might have been better to really pray for this person, that God would set them free from the satanic deception their under

[Guest man]

Do not judge according to appearance.

Really? What do you think of a man with long hair?

I think he's a man with long hair.

That is the best dodge I have seen you make so far.

I just remember the many discussions we have had where you were so against man having long hair, yet you say we should not judge a man who wears makeup. Really confusing to me what you really believe. Nothing more, nothing less ...

Show me.