FDA Approves Morning-After Pill For Women 15 And Older Without Prescri

[JustinM]

JustinM said

So, what if a 20 year old is having a sexual relationship with a 15 year old girl, and there's a chance she might become pregnant? The State has now become an accomplice to her rape, and is obstructing justice by allowing her or her rapist to cover it up. Giving a minor access to an abortifacent, such as this, is interfering with justice, if the person that got her pregnant is an adult. It is not the same as a condom either, the drug is only to be used after unprotected sex, to prevent a pregnancy, and will not protect her from getting a STI.

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So, you are against the morning after pill because a pregnant victim aids justice?

It's no wonder the heathens think we are crazy.

That's not the only reason I am against it. But, as you can see there are lots of reasons why people oppose this, and they were given before I posted anything. So, I threw out another reason why minors should not have access to this drug. And if you don't think adults that abuse minors will use this as a get out of jail card, then you are naive.

Rapists have tried many ways to hide a pregnancy to avoid prison, such as killing the victim, injuring the victim and forcing a miscarriage, poisoning the victim, kidnapping and keeping the victim in confinement, etc. Here's an example of a similar thing happening to an 11 year old, you may know her as Jaycee Dugard.

The existence or her children aided in the conviction of Phillip Garrido for sexual assault, battery, kidnapping, etc. Doesn't seem so crazy does it?

[missmuffet]

What is so hard about the concept of .....No sex until marriage?The world does not get it.Satan in the mean time is loving it.Because sex before marriage not only is a sin but can cause alot of heartache.

[JustinM]

What is so hard about the concept of .....No sex until marriage?The world does not get it.Satan in the mean time is loving it.Because sex before marriage not only is a sin but can cause alot of heartache.

Everything the left stands for is destructive to the character, body, or soul of the people they say the support. Why are they so destructive? This goes all the way back to Eden. Lucifer, not only instigated the destruction of Man's relationship with God, he also instigated the destruction of the character, body, and soul of everyone since then.

[JustinM]

What is so hard about the concept of .....No sex until marriage?The world does not get it.Satan in the mean time is loving it.Because sex before marriage not only is a sin but can cause alot of heartache.

I agree, if people were abstinent, abortion, pre-marital sex, and unwed child birthing wouldn't happen.

But, what I'm hearing from people that do support OTC "Plan B" pills being available to minors, is, they seem to have accepted that children/teens are "sexual" beings and instead of being told sex is not good for them (which it isn't) they are being told it's ok to have sex, as long as they are careful. Well, if that applies to sex, why shouldn't it apply to anything else kids want to do?

[Guest Valnomi]

JustinM said

So, what if a 20 year old is having a sexual relationship with a 15 year old girl, and there's a chance she might become pregnant? The State has now become an accomplice to her rape, and is obstructing justice by allowing her or her rapist to cover it up. Giving a minor access to an abortifacent, such as this, is interfering with justice, if the person that got her pregnant is an adult. It is not the same as a condom either, the drug is only to be used after unprotected sex, to prevent a pregnancy, and will not protect her from getting a STI.

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So, you are against the morning after pill because a pregnant victim aids justice?

It's no wonder the heathens think we are crazy.

That's not the only reason I am against it. But, as you can see there are lots of reasons why people oppose this, and they were given before I posted anything. So, I threw out another reason why minors should not have access to this drug. And if you don't think adults that abuse minors will use this as a get out of jail card, then you are naive.

Rapists have tried many ways to hide a pregnancy to avoid prison, such as killing the victim, injuring the victim and forcing a miscarriage, poisoning the victim, kidnapping and keeping the victim in confinement, etc. Here's an example of a similar thing happening to an 11 year old, you may know her as Jaycee Dugard.

The existence or her children aided in the conviction of Phillip Garrido for sexual assault, battery, kidnapping, etc. Doesn't seem so crazy does it?

Unbelievable. Kidnapping her and keeping her for eighteen years was all that was needed to convict this sicko. If you really believe that there is anything positive about Dugard getting pregnant by her kidnapper, then there is really nothing more anyone can say to you.

[Guest Valnomi]

Rapists have tried many ways to hide a pregnancy to avoid prison, such as killing the victim, injuring the victim and forcing a miscarriage, poisoning the victim, kidnapping and keeping the victim in confinement, etc. Here's an example of a similar thing happening to an 11 year old, you may know her as Jaycee Dugard.

You do realize that this rapist/molester could buy the pill themselves anyway as they would be adults.

I also find the above part of your post disturbing? Are you a parent? If so, are any of your children daughters?

If raped and pregnant, wouldn't you rather they receive a morning after pill than go through the atrocities you describe?

I know abstinance is the answer, but that is no comfort to a rape victim. They need help, not platitudes.

Edited May 6, 2013 by Valnomi

[Guest Valnomi]

It would be helpful to actually understand what the Plan B morning after pill actually does. It does not kill a fertilized egg. If prevents fertilization from occuring.

Plan B or Plan B One-Step is not the same as RU-486, which is an abortion pill. It does not cause a miscarriage or abortion. In other words, it does not stop development of a fetus once the fertilized egg implants in the uterus. So it will not work if you are already pregnant when you take it.

http://women.webmd.com/guide/plan-b

This information is also provided in the OP article. I guess not everyone read it.

Edited May 6, 2013 by Valnomi

[Guest Valnomi]

I'm not for this loosening of the controls on this drug either......but; if if will reduce the number of abortions then it would be worth it. If no pregnancy occurs, no life is ended. As for condoning sex, kids are going to do what they've always done......but maybe if pregancy can be prevented, a child won't have to pay with his/her life for their would-be parents' lack of morals.

Sorry, but you're not making any sense. It is designed to dislodge a fertilized egg from the uterine wall.

Sorry, the "kids are going to do what kids always do" argument isn't washing either. Abstinence works every time it's tried.

Yes, abstinence DOES work every time....but that's not the world we're living in. As for not making any sense, it depends on how clearly one thinks. I'm not going to believe that wishing for people to practice abstience is going to affect the number of abortions that take place. We have to deal with situations as they are, not the way we wish they were.

Actually, we need to deal with the reality of sin and it's consequences and stop marginalizing our children.

Not marginalizing, Dave, being realistic. ANYTHING that would reduce the number of abortions is, if not a good thing, at least a better alternative to murder. The morning after pill prevents pregnancy (I'm not sure of the medical mechanics of it all) and that's better than killing a fetus in the womb.

So let me get your argument straight. Help me understand what you're saying. Are you really saying that compromising with sin is better than not sinning in the first place?

Ge 4:7

If you do well, shall you not be accepted? and if you do not well, sin lies at the door. And you shall be its desire, and you must rule over it.

It does not prevent pregnancy. It dislodges fertilized and unfertilized eggs from the uterus wall. It in fact terminates a pregnancy. That's being realistic.

What would reduce the number of abortions is to stop marginalizing and underselling our kids in the first place.

The posted article says the opposite. There are two morning after pills. One does as you say. But the Plan-B bill the OP is about prevents pregnancy from occuring in the first place.

I think that is why morning glory (who appears to be the only one who read the entire article) sees this as a better alternative than abortion. I agree.

Edited May 6, 2013 by Valnomi

[ayin jade]

I'm not really a supporter of 15 year olds being able to buy this drug either but I AM in favor of reducing abortions. I'm taking into account that, too often, girls that young are being molested by a family member or friend. Like I said, there is NO ideal solution here.

How is preventing a fertilized egg from implanting on the uterus not abortion of another kind?

They are both abortions. So it is not preventing abortions. Its only making it "nicer" for the female and public.

[ayin jade]

It would be helpful to actually understand what the Plan B morning after pill actually does. It does not kill a fertilized egg. If prevents fertilization from occuring.

Plan B or Plan B One-Step is not the same as RU-486, which is an abortion pill. It does not cause a miscarriage or abortion. In other words, it does not stop development of a fetus once the fertilized egg implants in the uterus. So it will not work if you are already pregnant when you take it.

http://women.webmd.com/guide/plan-b

This information is also provided in the OP article. I guess not everyone read it.

In your post above you stated:

it does not stop development of a fetus once the fertilized egg implants in the uterus.

Thing is, preventing a fertilized egg from implanting is still an abortion. The literature out there tries to say it isnt so folks are not turned off.

From one of my pharmacy resources, ONE of the mechanisms of action is to prevent the implantation of a fertilized egg onto the uterus.

http://www.pdr.net/drug-summary/plan-b?druglabelid=573&id=1542

I am a pharmacist btw.