'Y'all Are a Temple of God,' According to New Texas Bible

[Qnts2]

Interesting. I know Hebrew, and languages like French do have separate words indicating second person singular and second person plural. For accuracy, it is a good idea, but I'm not sure about a slang word like y'all. But I'm not sure there is really another choice in English. They have a good point.  

[nebula]

 

What do you think of the intention, though - that is to distinguish "you" singular vs. "you" plural?

 

 

Just my opinion but I think the Word should be left alone. This guy's putting his own spin on what he believes the bible is saying. Who's to say his interpretations are correct?

 

 

No. As Qnts2 pointed out, Hebrew and Greek have different words to designate you-singular and you-plural. "Y'all" is a slang term some Americans use to designate you-plural because English does not do it on its own.

 

So, the Word is not being messed with; it is being clarified.

[Guest man]

 

 

What do you think of the intention, though - that is to distinguish "you" singular vs. "you" plural?

 

 

Just my opinion but I think the Word should be left alone. This guy's putting his own spin on what he believes the bible is saying. Who's to say his interpretations are correct?

 

 

No. As Qnts2 pointed out, Hebrew and Greek have different words to designate you-singular and you-plural. "Y'all" is a slang term some Americans use to designate you-plural because English does not do it on its own.

 

So, the Word is not being messed with; it is being clarified.

 

 

 

That's my point. Who's to say his clarifications are correct?

[Qnts2]

 

 

 

What do you think of the intention, though - that is to distinguish "you" singular vs. "you" plural?

 

 

Just my opinion but I think the Word should be left alone. This guy's putting his own spin on what he believes the bible is saying. Who's to say his interpretations are correct?

 

 

No. As Qnts2 pointed out, Hebrew and Greek have different words to designate you-singular and you-plural. "Y'all" is a slang term some Americans use to designate you-plural because English does not do it on its own.

 

So, the Word is not being messed with; it is being clarified.

 

 

 

That's my point. Who's to say his clarifications are correct?

 

I do not know any Greek but I do know enough Hebrew to know that Hebrew clearly differentiates second person singular and second person plural. There is no mistaking the difference so there is no doubt the clarifications are correct.

 

Hebrew second person singular = ata

Hebrew second person plural = atem

 

In their covention ata would be translated as 'you'

Atem would be translated as "y'all".

 

Not only are the Hebrew pronouns different but the related verb or adjective also indicates singular or plural based on the pronoun, so there is further grammatical evidence confirming.

 

I realized English has a strange system when it comes to second person.

 

I am ..... we are

You are.....you are

He is...... They are

 

The verb in first person and third person indicate singular or plural based on the pronoun but second person does not.

 

The translation into English for the word 'you' is accurate but English lacks the precision of other languages in this case. The paper recognizes the lack of precision in the English language and is trying for a convention which makes up for the lack to reflect the original biblical languages literally.            

Edited June 9, 2013 by Qnts2

[nebula]

 

No. As Qnts2 pointed out, Hebrew and Greek have different words to designate you-singular and you-plural. "Y'all" is a slang term some Americans use to designate you-plural because English does not do it on its own.

 

So, the Word is not being messed with; it is being clarified.

 

 

That's my point. Who's to say his clarifications are correct?

 

Why are you assuming they would not be? There is no guessing-game on the translator's part. The word is either singular or it is plural.

[Guest man]

 

 

No. As Qnts2 pointed out, Hebrew and Greek have different words to designate you-singular and you-plural. "Y'all" is a slang term some Americans use to designate you-plural because English does not do it on its own.

 

So, the Word is not being messed with; it is being clarified.

 

 

That's my point. Who's to say his clarifications are correct?

 

Why are you assuming they would not be? There is no guessing-game on the translator's part. The word is either singular or it is plural.

 

 

 

You're right, my mistake.

[Guest Butero]

I personally don't find this kind of change necessary.  The meaning is perfectly clear, everytime I read my KJV Bible.  I like it just the way it is.  I live in the south, and there are people that will say y'all, but it is not as common as some seem to think, and we recognize it is slang.  Why do I want to dumb down scripture like that?  Should we start using the word ain't as well?  Just from the standpoint of the use of the English language, I don't like this change.  There are times I will use slang, but I know it isn't good, and it makes a person look less intelligent.  The use of slang should be discouraged, not encouraged.  I sure don't want it in my Bible. 

[other one]

how can clarifying the difference in the Hebrew/Greek wording be dumbing down scripture?  if one doesn't want to use y'all then at least use "you all" and represent the original writing.

[Guest Butero]

how can clarifying the difference in the Hebrew/Greek wording be dumbing down scripture?  if one doesn't want to use y'all then at least use "you all" and represent the original writing.

I don't believe it was wrong in the first place.  This is just another back door attempt to find fault in the KJV Bible, and I'm not falling for it. It is not necessary, and clarifies nothing.  I automatically know that the word you means anyone reading it.  I don't need it changed to you all to understand something as simple as that. 

[nebula]

You're right, my mistake.