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I personally don't find this kind of change necessary.  The meaning is perfectly clear, everytime I read my KJV Bible.  I like it just the way it is.  I live in the south, and there are people that will say y'all, but it is not as common as some seem to think, and we recognize it is slang.  Why do I want to dumb down scripture like that?  Should we start using the word ain't as well?  Just from the standpoint of the use of the English language, I don't like this change.  There are times I will use slang, but I know it isn't good, and it makes a person look less intelligent.  The use of slang should be discouraged, not encouraged.  I sure don't want it in my Bible. 

 

Really? Can you tell from the KJV that Phil. 2:12-14 uses the plural form of "you" rather than the singular?


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I personally don't find this kind of change necessary.  The meaning is perfectly clear, everytime I read my KJV Bible.  I like it just the way it is.  I live in the south, and there are people that will say y'all, but it is not as common as some seem to think, and we recognize it is slang.  Why do I want to dumb down scripture like that?  Should we start using the word ain't as well?  Just from the standpoint of the use of the English language, I don't like this change.  There are times I will use slang, but I know it isn't good, and it makes a person look less intelligent.  The use of slang should be discouraged, not encouraged.  I sure don't want it in my Bible. 

 

Really? Can you tell from the KJV that Phil. 2:12-14 uses the plural form of "you" rather than the singular?

 

Hi Nebula I know this question was directed to Butero.  But I can personally tell that Paul is speaking to the beloved saints (plural-the saints then and now) and do not need the slang word "ya'll" to be able to understand that.   I do not like this Texas version personally and think a little meditation and study can go along way to open up a persons understanding.    


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  I do not like this Texas version personally and think a little meditation and study can go along way to open up a persons understanding.    

 

 

Meh, you'all are just a bunch of Yanks! :P

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I personally don't find this kind of change necessary.  The meaning is perfectly clear, everytime I read my KJV Bible.  I like it just the way it is.  I live in the south, and there are people that will say y'all, but it is not as common as some seem to think, and we recognize it is slang.  Why do I want to dumb down scripture like that?  Should we start using the word ain't as well?  Just from the standpoint of the use of the English language, I don't like this change.  There are times I will use slang, but I know it isn't good, and it makes a person look less intelligent.  The use of slang should be discouraged, not encouraged.  I sure don't want it in my Bible. 

 

Really? Can you tell from the KJV that Phil. 2:12-14 uses the plural form of "you" rather than the singular?

 

The meaning is perfectly clear to me with no changes.  I have never had any trouble understanding that "you" means anyone that reads the passage, which would mean the entire church.  It is common sense.  I was born in North Carolina, hardly a yankee, and I rarely if ever would say "y'all."  I have no problem with someone saying "y'all", but it doesn't belong in the Bible. 

 

The whole issue here is over the constant need to make changes in scripture because of supposed errors.  Why is this so important?  Because it opens the door for anyone to claim that when the Bible says something is wrong, the person can claim translation errors, and point to a new translation or paraphrase to make it say what they want it to say. 


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I personally don't find this kind of change necessary.  The meaning is perfectly clear, everytime I read my KJV Bible.  I like it just the way it is.  I live in the south, and there are people that will say y'all, but it is not as common as some seem to think, and we recognize it is slang.  Why do I want to dumb down scripture like that?  Should we start using the word ain't as well?  Just from the standpoint of the use of the English language, I don't like this change.  There are times I will use slang, but I know it isn't good, and it makes a person look less intelligent.  The use of slang should be discouraged, not encouraged.  I sure don't want it in my Bible. 

 

Really? Can you tell from the KJV that Phil. 2:12-14 uses the plural form of "you" rather than the singular?

 

The meaning is perfectly clear to me with no changes.  I have never had any trouble understanding that "you" means anyone that reads the passage, which would mean the entire church.  It is common sense.  I was born in North Carolina, hardly a yankee, and I rarely if ever would say "y'all."  I have no problem with someone saying "y'all", but it doesn't belong in the Bible. 

 

The whole issue here is over the constant need to make changes in scripture because of supposed errors.  Why is this so important?  Because it opens the door for anyone to claim that when the Bible says something is wrong, the person can claim translation errors, and point to a new translation or paraphrase to make it say what they want it to say. 

 

 

No, that is not the reason this translation was produced.

 

And I always thought the "your" in that verse was singular - meaning I work out my own personal salvation on my own - not plural - meaning something corporate.

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No, that is not the reason this translation was produced.

 

And I always thought the "your" in that verse was singular - meaning I work out my own personal salvation on my own - not plural - meaning something corporate.

 

 

 

It is singular. While Paul may be addressing the entire church, he's also addressing each of us as individuals. 

 

 

Philippians 2

12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

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