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1. Since sin is the transgression of the Law all unrighteousness would violate the 10 Commandments.

 

 

2. What moral laws would you consider to be outside of the 10 Commandments?

 

 

1. A good understanding of the difference between the Law of Moses and the 10 Commandments can be found here: http://www.preparingforeternity.com/mosevs10.htm

 

 

2. Here’s some examples of moral laws I believe are still in effect today… I’m sure there are others.

  

 

We are not to look upon the nakedness (or have relations with) any of our relatives. Incest is an abominable sin. See Lev. 18:6-18

 

‘None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his nakedness: I am the Lord. The nakedness of your father or the nakedness of your mother you shall not uncover. She is your mother; you shall not uncover her nakedness. The nakedness of your father’s wife you shall not uncover; it is your father’s nakedness. The nakedness of your sister, the daughter of your father, or the daughter of your mother, whether born at home or elsewhere, their nakedness you shall not uncover. 10 The nakedness of your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter, their nakedness you shall not uncover; for theirs is your own nakedness. 11 The nakedness of your father’s wife’s daughter, begotten by your father—she is your sister—you shall not uncover her nakedness. 12 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s sister; she is near of kin to your father. 13 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister, for she is near of kin to your mother. 14 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s brother. You shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. 15 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law—she is your son’s wife—you shall not uncover her nakedness. 16 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother’s wife; it is your brother’s nakedness. 17 You shall not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, nor shall you take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, to uncover her nakedness. They are near of kin to her. It is wickedness. 18 Nor shall you take a woman as a rival to her sister, to uncover her nakedness while the other is alive.

 

 

Homosexuality is an abominable sin. See Le  v. 18:22

22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.  

 

Bestiality is an abominable sin. See     Lev. 18:23

23 Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion.  

 

Do not be involved with witchcraft and demons. See   Lev. 19:31

31 ‘Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God. 

 

What do you think? Are these moral laws still in place today for Beleivers outside the 10 commandments?

 

God bless,

GE


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3. In Col 2- Paul's main point is that the Colossian deceivers had no authority to judge or determine how theColossians were to observe God's holydays.

3. I agree that those who were judging the Colossians had no right to judge them due to food, drink, festivals, or Sabbaths. I also don’t think the Gentiles had to observe the holydays that were observed by Jews in order to be Christ-followers. I think too that we should differentiate between moral and ceremonial laws.

 

Moral laws continued as Christ did not do away with them. Ceremonial laws (i.e. circumcision, festivals, Sabbaths, etc.) were for the Jews and were not to be applied to Gentiles. (See Acts 15:22-29 in the next post)

 

Examples of Ceremonial laws:

 

While as Believers we can we are called to take a day of rest (which I believe can be any day of the week or weekend) we’re called to focus on God EVERYDAY of the week.

 

Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; you shall do no work therein: it is the SABBATH of the LORD in all your dwellings.

 

We are no longer bound to the Passover which was a Jewish tradition – Christ is now our Passover and we celebrate the Lord’s Supper (Communion) instead to celebrate our risen Savior.

 

Leviticus 23:4-5 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which you shall proclaim in their seasons. 5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S Passover.

 

We as Believers do not have to celebrate the feast of unleavened bread for example.

 

Leviticus 23:6-8 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days you must eat unleavened bread. 7 In the first day you shall have an holy convocation: you shall do no servile work therein. 8 But you shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: you shall do no servile work therein.

 

Your thoughts?

 

God bless,

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4. From vs 16-17 we see that Paul is countering a local heresy-he is actually confirming the value of God's holydays to Christians and explains that they foreshadow " things to come " He's talking about the future.

Succumbing to the heretics is what Paul is condemning, not the observance of Sabbaths and God's feast days.

 

4. I disagree. From verses 16 and 17 to me clearly indicate that food, drink, festivals, and/or Sabbaths are not what make one a Christ-follower.  Even the law pointed to the fact that what was really needed was heart change in Deut. 10:16. Further, outward displays of holiness means nothing if the heart is not circumcised – the Spirit circumcises our hearts! :) See Rom. 2:28-29

 

Deut. 10:16

16 Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and be stiff-necked no longer.

 

Rom. 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

 

Following Chris is not about what we eat or what festivals we partake in. It’s about heart change.

 

Mark 20:17-20

17 When He had entered a house away from the crowd, His disciples asked Him concerning the parable. 18 So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, 19 because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?” 20 And He said, “What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.”

 

Also, it seemed good to the Apostles (in Acts 15:22-29) as they were led by the Holy Spirit to lay on the Gentiles no more burdens than necessary: to abstain from things offered to idols, from drinking blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. Notice there is no mention of Sabbaths, festivals, or new moons. I wonder why that is? Would the Holy Spirit change this direction? If so where is the passage that says the Holy Spirit said to follow the Sabbaths, festivals, and new moons for Believers?

 

Acts 15:22-29

The Jerusalem Decree

22 Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren.

 

23 They wrote this letter by them:

 

The apostles, the elders, and the brethren,

 

To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia:

Greetings.

 

24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law” —to whom we gave no such commandment— 25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.

 

Farewell.


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Jesus reformed the Sabbath to its rightful place as designed in creation where the Sabbath is made for all mankind and not just for a select group.

 

Jesus was a Sabbath keeper. He set the example as to how we should keep it by doing good and not be burdened down by legalistic restrictions as mandated by Rabbinic halakhah. The freedom Jesus showed we could have was from the harsh rules inflicted by over regulating by man's rules. But the freedom did not include abolishing the observance of the Sabbath from its original design.

What does it mean when Jesus says " Think not that I am come to destroy the Law..."  If He told you not to think something, would you believe Him?

Or should we believe something were true when Jesus told you it was not?

 

See previous posts. But the simple answer is the Sabbath is not something for the Gentile. Are you Jewish?

God bless,

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Was the seventh day Sabbath made for the Jews only or was it made for all of mankind.?

If it was made holy at the time of creation it precedes the existence of Judah.

But still no scripture plainly says stop observing the 7th day even to the gentiles, just vague interpretations which would contradict Jesus's requirement to keep the commandments in order to receive eternal life which would include the fourth one I believe.

 

 

What do you think Jesus meant when he said:

 

Mark 2:27

And he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath."

 

Jesus healed (considered work) many times on the Sabbath... Did Jesus break the Sabbath? Here's one instance:

 

Luke 13:10-17

A Woman with a Disabling Spirit

10 Now he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath. 11 And behold, there was a woman who had had a disabling spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not fully straighten herself. 12 When Jesus saw her, he called her over and said to her, “Woman, you are freed from your disability.” 13 And he laid his hands on her, and immediately she was made straight, and she glorified God. 14 But the ruler of the synagogue, indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, said to the people, “There are six days in which work ought to be done. Come on those days and be healed, and not on the Sabbath day.” 15 Then the Lord answered him, “You hypocrites! Does not each of you on the Sabbath untie his ox or his donkey from the manger and lead it away to water it? 16 And ought not this woman, a daughter of Abraham whom Satan bound for eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath day?” 17 As he said these things, all his adversaries were put to shame, and all the people rejoiced at all the glorious things that were done by him.

 

See also: John 5:5-14

 

Jesus reformed the Sabbath to its rightful place as designed in creation where the Sabbath is made for all mankind and not just for a select group.

Jesus was a Sabbath keeper. He set the example as to how we should keep it by doing good and not be burdened down by legalistic restrictions as mandated by Rabbinic halakhah. The freedom Jesus showed we could have was from the harsh rules inflicted by over regulating by man's rules. But the freedom did not include abolishing the observance of the Sabbath from its original design.

What does it mean when Jesus says " Think not that I am come to destroy the Law..."  If He told you not to think something, would you believe Him?

Or should we believe something were true when Jesus told you it was not?

 

 

Jesus was born a Jew, circumcised on the eighth day. Jesus was born obligated to the Mosaic law. In the Mosaic law, breaking the Sabbath was a violation of the law, a sin, with the death penalty. Had Jesus broken the laws concerning the Sabbath, He would have been a sinner, and unqualified to die for our sin.

 

Jesus, during His entire ministry on earth, before the crucifixion, was obligated to the Mosaic law. Had He taught against the Mosaic law, he again would have been sinning. Jesus taught in Israel, to the Jewish people who were also obligated to the Mosaic covenant and laws.

 

As far as Rabbinic Halachah, many of the Rabbis of Jesus time were also judges. According to the Mosaic law, the Priests and judges were to explain and decide, as in a court of law, how the law was to be applied. According to the Mosaic law, the people were to obey the judgements of the Priests and judges. That is why Jesus told the people:

 

Matthew 23:1Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. '  

 

Had Jesus told the people to disobey Halachah, He would have been breaking the Mosaic law, as those who sit on Mose' seat are the judges with the authority as outlined in the Mosaic law.  

 

When Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man, He was speaking to Jewish people. The Sabbath was given to the Jewish people in the Mosaic law. More specifically the Pharisees, many of whom were officially judges.  

 

Mark 2:23 Now it happened that He went through the grainfields on the Sabbath; and as they went His disciples began to pluck the heads of grain. 24 And the Pharisees said to Him, “Look, why do they do what is not lawful on the Sabbath?”

25 But He said to them, “Have you never read what David did when he was in need and hungry, he and those with him: 26 how he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the showbread, which is not lawful to eat except for the priests, and also gave some to those who were with him?”

27 And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”

 

 

So, there is no example of the Sabbath being a law given in the New Covenant, or to Gentiles.

 

 

Adding: healing is not considered a violation of the Sabbath. Certain things can occur which might be considered a conflict between laws. In these 'conflicts' there is a higher precedent. Should a life be in jeopardy, healing comes first. Caring for a life comes first, and not endangering a life comes first.

 

The Mosaic law is mans obligation in the Mosaic covenant. The covenant is a single unit, so no laws can be picked or chosen. The 10 commandments are part of the Mosaic covenant, and can not be separated from the rest of the law. God did not separate or define which laws are moral, or ritual, or  civil, so such a division is made by men, not God. In reality, many laws overlap these three categories.

 

Since the law is a single unit, the Mosaic covenant, a violation of a single law actually violates the entire Mosaic covenant since things can not be divided, subdivided etc. A person can not pick something in a contract they don't like and simply decide they won't do that provision. If they do, they have broken the entire contract.

 

So, circumcision is a sign of the covenant and a law in the Mosaic covenant. When the Apostles said that Gentiles were not required to be physically ritually circumcised, they were not changing the Mosaic covenant. That is against the Mosaic law, to add to or take away from anything in the Mosaic covenant. They were recognizing that the Gentiles were fully included in the New Covenant as Gentiles, without having to follow the Mosaic law of the Mosaic covenant.     

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John 5:16-17

For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, "My Father has been working until now, and I have been working."

NKJV

 

 

when accused of working on the Sabbath, our Lord did not correct what they accused him of. but agreed with them


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For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath Day.   Matthew 12:8

Here Jesus tells the Pharisees that not only is He greater than the Sabbath, but also the Temple, Matthew 12:6.  Because He was the Lord who was to visit His Temple, Malachi 3:1.  But it is interesting what Matthew wrote in chapter 11 last three verses, just before the first 8 in Matthew 12.

Matthew 11:28-30

28)  Come unto Me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden and I will give you REST.

29)  Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I Am meek and lowly in heart : and ye shall find REST unto your souls.

30)  For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light.

 

And we see that God rested from all His works on the Seventh day, Genesis 2:3.

 

So we as Christians no longer worry about the works of law, but still follow the Ten Commandments because it shows our love for God and our neighbor.  But we take the Rest that Jesus gave us so that we no longer worry about the 7th day Sabbath.

So as God rested on the 7th day, so we Rest in Jesus finish work.

9)   There remaineth therefore a REST to the people of God.

10)  For he that is entered into His REST, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His.

Hebrews 4:9-10

So that in Christ Jesus finish work on the cross our souls, find the true meaning of resting from our filthy works, and the Holy Spirit now produce the Fruit of His Work, Ephesians 2:10.   

 

 

 

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John 5:16-17

For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, "My Father has been working until now, and I have been working."

NKJV

 

 

when accused of working on the Sabbath, our Lord did not correct what they accused him of. but agreed with them

 

So you are saying that Jesus violated the Sabbath law?  Violation of the law is sin so if that were true, Jesus would be a sinner, deserving of death.  

 

Exodus 20:10

but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.
 
Exodus 31:12 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 13 “Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: ‘Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 14 You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.
 
To condemn a person to death, the person is to be taken to the courts of law and 2 or 3 witnesses go before the judges and testify of what they have seen. If the witnesses are reliable, the judges condemn the person to death for their sin.
 
Jesus was killed even though He was innocent, so Jesus could not have violated the Sabbath law.
 
Adding: What occurred is a priority of laws. For example, a baby boy is to be circumcised on the 8th day. What if the 8th day is the Sabbath? Do you have the baby circumcised on the Sabbath, or do you wait for the 9th day?  
   

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1. Since sin is the transgression of the Law all unrighteousness would violate the 10 Commandments.

 

 

2. What moral laws would you consider to be outside of the 10 Commandments?

 

 

1. A good understanding of the difference between the Law of Moses and the 10 Commandments can be found here: http://www.preparingforeternity.com/mosevs10.htm

 

 

2. Here’s some examples of moral laws I believe are still in effect today… I’m sure there are others.

  

 

We are not to look upon the nakedness (or have relations with) any of our relatives. Incest is an abominable sin. See Lev. 18:6-18

 

‘None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his nakedness: I am the Lord. The nakedness of your father or the nakedness of your mother you shall not uncover. She is your mother; you shall not uncover her nakedness. The nakedness of your father’s wife you shall not uncover; it is your father’s nakedness. The nakedness of your sister, the daughter of your father, or the daughter of your mother, whether born at home or elsewhere, their nakedness you shall not uncover. 10 The nakedness of your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter, their nakedness you shall not uncover; for theirs is your own nakedness. 11 The nakedness of your father’s wife’s daughter, begotten by your father—she is your sister—you shall not uncover her nakedness. 12 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s sister; she is near of kin to your father. 13 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister, for she is near of kin to your mother. 14 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s brother. You shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. 15 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law—she is your son’s wife—you shall not uncover her nakedness. 16 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother’s wife; it is your brother’s nakedness. 17 You shall not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, nor shall you take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, to uncover her nakedness. They are near of kin to her. It is wickedness. 18 Nor shall you take a woman as a rival to her sister, to uncover her nakedness while the other is alive.

 

 

Homosexuality is an abominable sin. See Le  v. 18:22

22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.  

 

Bestiality is an abominable sin. See     Lev. 18:23

23 Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion.  

 

Do not be involved with witchcraft and demons. See   Lev. 19:31

31 ‘Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God. 

 

What do you think? Are these moral laws still in place today for Beleivers outside the 10 commandments?

 

God bless,

GE

 

 

 

I read the paper and I think there is a major issue. The premise of the paper is that God's law isn't the same thing as Moses Law. Gods law is the 10 commandments and the rest is Moses law. Clearly, that is incorrect. In the OT, during the giving of the law, it is repeatedly said 'Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying.....' over and over. God was telling Moses what the laws were, and Moses passed on what God said to the rest of the children of Israel.

 

Lev 26:46 These are the statutes and judgments and laws which the Lord made between Himself and the children of Israel on Mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.
 
Moses' law is God's law.
 
Reading thru the law, there is no division of the law into groups. There is nothing written by God to indicate which laws are moral laws and which are ceremonial. Such divisions do not exist in scripture. So, how do people decide for themselves which laws are moral and which are ceremonial? Simply, it is someones opinion, but not God's opinion as God did not divide the laws into groups.
 
Is the Sabbath ceremonial or moral? Both.
Are the laws concerning the redemption of the child of Israel sold as a bondservant ceremonial or moral? both.
Are the laws concerning leperous sores ceremonial or moral? both
 
These three examples involve what I would consider a moral issue, and they also involve the priests and the Temple. But above all, the law is a pointer to Jesus. Try to divide the law into categories and pick and choose, it destroys the perfect law given by God. The law is a picture of peoples need for Jesus, what to look for in the Messiah/savior, what the Messiah/savior would do.
 
Luke 24:27
And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.
 
The Mosaic law, given by God to Moses who transmitted it to the people, does have divisions. Scripture is very specific who is obligated to which laws. Some laws are just for men, some just for women, some just for children of Israel, and some for the children of Israel, as well as Gentiles who live in the land of Israel, and some for children of Israel, Gentiles living in the land, and Gentiles just passing thru the land of Israel on business or vacations.
 
Some of the laws are repeated in the New Testament and applicable to those under the New Covenant. Yet NT scripture says all scripture
 
2 Tim 3:16
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
 
What does that mean? That all scripture is given by God and it is all profitable. That includes all of the laws given by God to Moses who transmitted it to the children of Israel and Jesus and the Apostles quoted from the OT extensively.  
 
So, the question becomes, are the Mosaic covenant and the New Covenant different covenants? Which one are we under? And what laws are given to us based on the covenant we are under?

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1. Since sin is the transgression of the Law all unrighteousness would violate the 10 Commandments.

 

 

2. What moral laws would you consider to be outside of the 10 Commandments?

 

 

1. A good understanding of the difference between the Law of Moses and the 10 Commandments can be found here: http://www.preparingforeternity.com/mosevs10.htm

 

 

2. Here’s some examples of moral laws I believe are still in effect today… I’m sure there are others.

  

 

We are not to look upon the nakedness (or have relations with) any of our relatives. Incest is an abominable sin. See Lev. 18:6-18

 

‘None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his nakedness: I am the Lord. The nakedness of your father or the nakedness of your mother you shall not uncover. She is your mother; you shall not uncover her nakedness. The nakedness of your father’s wife you shall not uncover; it is your father’s nakedness. The nakedness of your sister, the daughter of your father, or the daughter of your mother, whether born at home or elsewhere, their nakedness you shall not uncover. 10 The nakedness of your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter, their nakedness you shall not uncover; for theirs is your own nakedness. 11 The nakedness of your father’s wife’s daughter, begotten by your father—she is your sister—you shall not uncover her nakedness. 12 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s sister; she is near of kin to your father. 13 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister, for she is near of kin to your mother. 14 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s brother. You shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. 15 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law—she is your son’s wife—you shall not uncover her nakedness. 16 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother’s wife; it is your brother’s nakedness. 17 You shall not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, nor shall you take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, to uncover her nakedness. They are near of kin to her. It is wickedness. 18 Nor shall you take a woman as a rival to her sister, to uncover her nakedness while the other is alive.

 

 

Homosexuality is an abominable sin. See Le  v. 18:22

22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.  

 

Bestiality is an abominable sin. See     Lev. 18:23

23 Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion.  

 

Do not be involved with witchcraft and demons. See   Lev. 19:31

31 ‘Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God. 

 

What do you think? Are these moral laws still in place today for Beleivers outside the 10 commandments?

 

God bless,

GE

 

 

Sexual immorality in general falls under the 7th Commandment. In its spiritual intent any sexual relations like masturbation, fornication, or homosexuality outside of marriage would be forbidden.

 

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