Is there any deference between believer,christian, and born again?

[Elhanan]

 

 

A Christian, a believer and a 'born again' are pretty much the same thing.  We can't pray for the dead because they have no hope of redemption.  This is why it's important to be ready to meet the Lord.  We could meet Him at any time.   

Ever hear of the term: the harrowing of hell?

 

No, please explain what you mean. 

 

From Wikipedia: The Harrowing of Hell (Latin: Descensus Christi ad Inferos, "the descent of Christ into hell") is the Old English and Middle English term for the triumphant descent of Christ into Hell (or Hades) between the time of his Crucifixion and his Resurrection when he brought salvation to all of the righteous who had died since the beginning of the world (excluding the damned).  This is the traditional Catholic view.  Jesus' descent into hell is formulated into some of the earliest formal teachings of the church as seen in the Apostles' Creed & Athanasian Creed.  The Eastern Orthodox view includes the belief that Jesus brought salvation not only to the Old Testament righteous in Hades but to the unrighteous as well. 

1 Peter 3:19-20 says that Jesus "went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison, who in former times did not obey, when God waited patiently in the days of Noah…" (NRSV).

1 Peter 4:6 says that the gospel was "proclaimed even to the dead…" (NRSV).

This belief contradicts that idea that the only chance to receive Christ is available only when we are alive.

[Jerry1023]

Yes the term" Christian/believer/ and born again" do all mean the same.. but in saying that.the words christian and believer are very loosely used by many who are not "born again" I will give myself as an example.

When I was in my teens I entered a catholic convent and became a Nun. I acknowledged that I was a christian and a believer BUT I was not "born again"....I was never taught that I need to be born again.

There are many who say they are Christians but are not.

you got the point.in the state where i stay.i use to wonder how come this person call him/herself a christian.yet he/she still furnicate and commit all kind of sins.one day i asked somebody."why" he told me that he is a christian not born again.in my country once you are not a musilem.you are christian.even i myself at that time i use to go to church.i see myself as a christian.but i know iam not born again.that was why i asked that question"

[missmuffet]

 

Yes the term" Christian/believer/ and born again" do all mean the same.. but in saying that.the words christian and believer are very loosely used by many who are not "born again" I will give myself as an example.

When I was in my teens I entered a catholic convent and became a Nun. I acknowledged that I was a christian and a believer BUT I was not "born again"....I was never taught that I need to be born again.

There are many who say they are Christians but are not.

you got the point.in the state where i stay.i use to wonder how come this person call him/herself a christian.yet he/she still furnicate and commit all kind of sins.one day i asked somebody."why" he told me that he is a christian not born again.in my country once you are not a musilem.you are christian.even i myself at that time i use to go to church.i see myself as a christian.but i know iam not born again.that was why i asked that question"

 

Their are many who are going to say they are born again or a Christian or a believer and they aren't.

[WIP]

 

Yes the term" Christian/believer/ and born again" do all mean the same.. but in saying that.the words christian and believer are very loosely used by many who are not "born again" I will give myself as an example.

When I was in my teens I entered a catholic convent and became a Nun. I acknowledged that I was a christian and a believer BUT I was not "born again"....I was never taught that I need to be born again.

There are many who say they are Christians but are not.

you got the point.in the state where i stay.i use to wonder how come this person call him/herself a christian.yet he/she still furnicate and commit all kind of sins.one day i asked somebody."why" he told me that he is a christian not born again.in my country once you are not a musilem.you are christian.even i myself at that time i use to go to church.i see myself as a christian.but i know iam not born again.that was why i asked that question"

 

 

Jerry you say that you read the Bible and pray and yet you are not born again, may I ask why? In John 3:3 scripture tells us that we MUST be born again otherwise you cannot go to be with The Lord when you die.

[OneLight]

Jerry, what do you think the term "born again" means?

[Jerry1023]

Jerry, what do you think the term "born again" means?

well if you have been following my post.you will understand that. My past was nothing to write home about.in my country we use christian to differenciate muslim.i believed to read the bible is not the problem.but to understand and do what is right before God..in my country you can't call yourself born again and still drink alcohol.before i use to drink alcohol and patronize prostituted.yet that time i go to church a very sunday.i see myself as a christian not born again.now i believed iam born again.it was my eagernes to draw closer to God.that make me to find this site" to answer your question.to repent from your sin.and began to live a life well pleasing to God.

[OneLight]

 

Jerry, what do you think the term "born again" means?

well if you have been following my post.you will understand that. My past was nothing to write home about.in my country we use christian to differenciate muslim.i believed to read the bible is not the problem.but to understand and do what is right before God..in my country you can't call yourself born again and still drink alcohol.before i use to drink alcohol and patronize prostituted.yet that time i go to church a very sunday.i see myself as a christian not born again.now i believed iam born again.it was my eagernes to draw closer to God.that make me to find this site" to answer your question.to repent from your sin.and began to live a life well pleasing to God.

 

 

Thank you for your reply.  I do not know what it is like living in an area where you are labeled one or the other.  I can see where the term Christian can be misleading in your case.

 

When we accept Christ as our Savior, turning from the old life we lived, and make a heart decision to follow Christ, the Holy Spirit will begin to change how you think, feel and act.  He takes the words you read in scripture and applies them to your new life in Christ, allowing you to become more like Jesus.  The more you change, the more you become the light to the lost around you.  It is because of  the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives that gives us a new life; therefore, being born again.

[Jerry1023]

Yes the term" Christian/believer/ and born again" do all mean the same.. but in saying that.the words christian and believer are very loosely used by many who are not "born again" I will give myself as an example.

When I was in my teens I entered a catholic convent and became a Nun. I acknowledged that I was a christian and a believer BUT I was not "born again"....I was never taught that I need to be born again.

There are many who say they are Christians but are not.

you got the point.in the state where i stay.i use to wonder how come this person call him/herself a christian.yet he/she still furnicate and commit all kind of sins.one day i asked somebody."why" he told me that he is a christian not born again.in my country once you are not a musilem.you are christian.even i myself at that time i use to go to church.i see myself as a christian.but i know iam not born again.that was why i asked that question"

Jerry you say that you read the Bible and pray and yet you are not born again, may I ask why? In John 3:3 scripture tells us that we MUST be born again otherwise you cannot go to be with The Lord when you die.

i believed you did not understand my comment.i said before:even criminals pray and read the bible.does that make them a born again.even a muslim in my country can quote the bible.someone need God's grace to become a pure born again.what do you think Jesus mean here:verily verily i say unto you.execpt a man be born of water and of the spirit.he can't enter into the kinddom of God.

[WIP]

 

 

 

Yes the term" Christian/believer/ and born again" do all mean the same.. but in saying that.the words christian and believer are very loosely used by many who are not "born again" I will give myself as an example.

When I was in my teens I entered a catholic convent and became a Nun. I acknowledged that I was a christian and a believer BUT I was not "born again"....I was never taught that I need to be born again.

There are many who say they are Christians but are not.

you got the point.in the state where i stay.i use to wonder how come this person call him/herself a christian.yet he/she still furnicate and commit all kind of sins.one day i asked somebody."why" he told me that he is a christian not born again.in my country once you are not a musilem.you are christian.even i myself at that time i use to go to church.i see myself as a christian.but i know iam not born again.that was why i asked that question"

Jerry you say that you read the Bible and pray and yet you are not born again, may I ask why? In John 3:3 scripture tells us that we MUST be born again otherwise you cannot go to be with The Lord when you die.

i believed you did not understand my comment.i said before:even criminals pray and read the bible.does that make them a born again.even a muslim in my country can quote the bible.someone need God's grace to become a pure born again.what do you think Jesus mean here:verily verily i say unto you.execpt a man be born of water and of the spirit.he can't enter into the kinddom of God.

 

Jerry being born again by the Spirit means this that you acknowledge that you are a sinner and in need of forgiveness, you should hate that sin that has separated you from The Lord,  repent, and ask The Lord Jesus to forgive you those sins and receive the  "life" which  He has offered you.

The water as I understand it means to be washed by the word of God, as we read scripture on a daily basis we are washed.

Eph 5:26  That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

 

[Knowingtruth]

Just want to know if there is any deference between.christian,believer and born again?

I also want to know what you think if a prayer of a christian can save a soul of someone who died while commiting sin? The reason I ask is a christian woman was praying and asking God to grant her late husband who died while commiting sin, soul to heaven. Both of them go to church.

 Yes, there are differences.

 

A Christian may be a nominal one being born to Christian parents. A religious Christian. 

 

Believer is one who has accepted Jesus Christ as his Savior.

 

Born again is one who gets the blessings from above and leads a transformed life cultivating the fruit of the Spirit.

 

For your second question the answer is no!

 

By the way, you not have asked who is a disciple of Christ? Who is he?