"Christians" Who Continue to Sin

[missmuffet]

Very,very few were saved in the flood(Noah's family) and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.What will happen in the rapture?How many will be removed?

[Guest]

The Church will be removed. Those who are lost will remain.

[Guest]

Lets make this simple.

 

Conservator has been told in front of his wife, by his wife's friend, that she is sleeping with men on the first date. She has been raised a Christian and has accepted Jesus as her savior.

 

She has slipped a bit and is in sin. We have all been there in different ways. Sin I mean. She is no different to you and I to a degree. Do you gossip (come on not even just a little bit?), tell the occasional lie? Have the occasional bad though about someone? (come on, not even once?). Type the occasional testy post to someone on an internet site? (Want to see some?).

 

All she needs is Love and Ministry and prayer, and perhaps some other help that only fellowship can bring.

 

Her admission is a cry, not a boast.

 

She needs Love, and Grace, and prayer.

 

Don't we all, sinners that we are?

 

Yes, we do. Need love and grace and prayer.

 

I was thinking that perhaps the reason this whole situation has arisen in that lady's life is because the Lord is leading her out of those particular sins. The Holy Spirit can be relentless when it comes to that.

[Sevenseas]

 

God did not have a problem with destroying the people of  Sodom and Gomorrah for all of its prideful, lust, refusing to help the poor,  and sexual sins.  Something to think about.

 

I agree and immorality is a sin which scripture tells us is to be judged by the church and dealt with, not glossed over. It is a serious matter to be living in sexual immorality, and this lady needs to know just how serious it is.

 

1 Cor 5:5-12 

5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named^[a] among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! ² And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. ³ For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. ⁴ In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, ⁵ deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.^[b]

⁶ Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? ⁷ Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.^[c]8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

⁹ I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. ¹⁰ Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. ¹¹ But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

¹² For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? ¹³ But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”^[d]

 

 

 

That would be what the Bible actually says as opposed to excuses we might make.  It's for our own good really.

 

God loves us, yet, He tells us that the wages of sin is death.   I think that is what we need to consider above anything else

[nikki1]

A friend of my wife comes from a Christian home with both her mother and sister being ministers. This lady claims she has been saved and says she has accepted Jesus as her personal savior.  However, her lifestyle does not live up to her being a good Christian.  She has been divorced for about one year and since that time has had sex with numerous men often after their first date.

 

She recently visited us and the discussion got around to her personal life.  She took the position that her "being saved" has wiped out all her past and her future sins and that she can continue to lead the life she is living with immunity.  It's sort of like getting a perpetual get out of jail card.   

 

I cited to her two verses.  The first was in Acts 3:19:  "Repent then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out...."  I then questioned if she truly repented if she willingly commits the same sin over and over again.  The second section is contained in John Chapter 8 where Jesus in verse 11 tells the woman to "Go now and leave your life of sin."

 

What do you folks think about persons such as this lady who claim to be Christians and say they are saved but continue to lead a life of sin and how would you answer them?

 

 

 

 

Repentance is first and foremost a requirement for salvation-- without which, there can be no salvation.   Following are just a handful of scriptures that verify this very  basic scripture teaching.  In fact, Jesus himself, when He started his ministry,  Matt. 4:17 tells us he went around teaching "Repent", for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

 

Isa: 55:7Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

 

Matt. 4:17 - From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

 

 

Mark 6:12 - And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

 

Luke 24:47 - And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

 

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

Acts 3:19 - Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord

 

2 Cor. 7:10 - For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

 

This brings me to something I have a problem with.   In the Christian church today, there are those who would pervert God's teaching on the necessity for repentance of sin to make friends and families and large contributors feel better about themselves and their lives.  Repentance is a command by Jesus himself, not an option, but  you hear and read of people all the time saying  what this woman has said:

 

 

 

This lady claims she has been saved and says "she has accepted Jesus as her personal savior."

 

This teaching that this woman professes is totally wrong.   Multitudes upon multitudes are being lead astray thinking all they need to do is accept Jesus as their personal  saviour, yet The Bible commands repentance, not accepting Jesus as a personal saviour.

 

You did the Biblical thing in telling this woman about repentance, because without repentance (a turning away from sin) there can be no salvation.

 

I have no idea where this false teaching started, but multitudes are going around professing they are Christian, saying "they  have accepted Jesus as their  personal savior,"  I have attended different  churches in my area and this seems to be a very popular false teaching.  I have heard it from televangelists over and over to the point I do not listen to them anymore.

[alphaparticle]

 

A friend of my wife comes from a Christian home with both her mother and sister being ministers. This lady claims she has been saved and says she has accepted Jesus as her personal savior.  However, her lifestyle does not live up to her being a good Christian.  She has been divorced for about one year and since that time has had sex with numerous men often after their first date.

 

She recently visited us and the discussion got around to her personal life.  She took the position that her "being saved" has wiped out all her past and her future sins and that she can continue to lead the life she is living with immunity.  It's sort of like getting a perpetual get out of jail card.   

 

I cited to her two verses.  The first was in Acts 3:19:  "Repent then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out...."  I then questioned if she truly repented if she willingly commits the same sin over and over again.  The second section is contained in John Chapter 8 where Jesus in verse 11 tells the woman to "Go now and leave your life of sin."

 

What do you folks think about persons such as this lady who claim to be Christians and say they are saved but continue to lead a life of sin and how would you answer them?

 

 

 

 

Repentance is first and foremost a requirement for salvation-- without which, there can be no salvation.   Following are just a handful of scriptures that verify this very  basic scripture teaching.  In fact, Jesus himself, when He started his ministry,  Matt. 4:17 tells us he went around teaching "Repent", for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

 

Isa: 55:7Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

 

Matt. 4:17 - From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

 

 

Mark 6:12 - And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

 

Luke 24:47 - And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

 

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

Acts 3:19 - Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord

 

2 Cor. 7:10 - For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

 

This brings me to something I have a problem with.   In the Christian church today, there are those who would pervert God's teaching on the necessity for repentance of sin to make friends and families and large contributors feel better about themselves and their lives.  Repentance is a command by Jesus himself, not an option, but  you hear and read of people all the time saying  what this woman has said:

 

 

 

This lady claims she has been saved and says "she has accepted Jesus as her personal savior."

 

This teaching that this woman professes is totally wrong.   Multitudes upon multitudes are being lead astray thinking all they need to do is accept Jesus as their personal  saviour, yet The Bible commands repentance, not accepting Jesus as a personal saviour.

 

You did the Biblical thing in telling this woman about repentance, because without repentance (a turning away from sin) there can be no salvation.

 

I have no idea where this false teaching started, but multitudes are going around professing they are Christian, saying "they  have accepted Jesus as their  personal savior,"  I have attended different  churches in my area and this seems to be a very popular false teaching.  I have heard it from televangelists over and over to the point I do not listen to them anymore.

 

Does that mean every time you sin you lose your salvation until you repent again?

[nikki1]

 

 

A friend of my wife comes from a Christian home with both her mother and sister being ministers. This lady claims she has been saved and says she has accepted Jesus as her personal savior.  However, her lifestyle does not live up to her being a good Christian.  She has been divorced for about one year and since that time has had sex with numerous men often after their first date.

 

She recently visited us and the discussion got around to her personal life.  She took the position that her "being saved" has wiped out all her past and her future sins and that she can continue to lead the life she is living with immunity.  It's sort of like getting a perpetual get out of jail card.   

 

I cited to her two verses.  The first was in Acts 3:19:  "Repent then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out...."  I then questioned if she truly repented if she willingly commits the same sin over and over again.  The second section is contained in John Chapter 8 where Jesus in verse 11 tells the woman to "Go now and leave your life of sin."

 

What do you folks think about persons such as this lady who claim to be Christians and say they are saved but continue to lead a life of sin and how would you answer them?

 

 

 

 

Repentance is first and foremost a requirement for salvation-- without which, there can be no salvation.   Following are just a handful of scriptures that verify this very  basic scripture teaching.  In fact, Jesus himself, when He started his ministry,  Matt. 4:17 tells us he went around teaching "Repent", for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

 

Isa: 55:7Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

 

Matt. 4:17 - From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

 

 

Mark 6:12 - And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

 

Luke 24:47 - And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

 

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

Acts 3:19 - Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord

 

2 Cor. 7:10 - For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

 

This brings me to something I have a problem with.   In the Christian church today, there are those who would pervert God's teaching on the necessity for repentance of sin to make friends and families and large contributors feel better about themselves and their lives.  Repentance is a command by Jesus himself, not an option, but  you hear and read of people all the time saying  what this woman has said:

 

 

 

This lady claims she has been saved and says "she has accepted Jesus as her personal savior."

 

This teaching that this woman professes is totally wrong.   Multitudes upon multitudes are being lead astray thinking all they need to do is accept Jesus as their personal  saviour, yet The Bible commands repentance, not accepting Jesus as a personal saviour.

 

You did the Biblical thing in telling this woman about repentance, because without repentance (a turning away from sin) there can be no salvation.

 

I have no idea where this false teaching started, but multitudes are going around professing they are Christian, saying "they  have accepted Jesus as their  personal savior,"  I have attended different  churches in my area and this seems to be a very popular false teaching.  I have heard it from televangelists over and over to the point I do not listen to them anymore.

 

Does that mean every time you sin you lose your salvation until you repent again?

 

 

 

God's Word is what it is.  Who are we to change it?  I think it would be better to focus on His Word as written.

[alphaparticle]

 

Does that mean every time you sin you lose your salvation until you repent again?

 

 

 

God's Word is what it is.  Who are we to change it?  I think it would be better to focus on His Word as written.

 

That doesn't answer the question. Do you think that every time you sin you lose your salvation until you repent again?

[Sevenseas]

 

Does that mean every time you sin you lose your salvation until you repent again?

 

 

 

That's an interesting question.

 

Scripture does not indicate that and after carefully considering Nikki's post, I don't see her saying that either

 

However, the question was about repeated and ongoing sin...not one sin.  Really.  That's what it is about.

 

That, is another consideration and scripture is clear that we cannot profess the Name of Christ and continue to live in sin, ongoing sin or in an unrepentant fashion.

 

Nevertheless the foundation of God stands sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are his. And, Let every one that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.  II Tim. 2:19

[conservator]

One thing,  I would question the sincerity of the person making the  repentance if he or she continually commits the same sin.