Morals

[jerryR34]

How can God dictate morals when anything He does is, by definition, moral?

[kingdomwitness]

I don't actually get what you are trying to ask.

[jerryR34]

I don't actually get what you are trying to ask.

Well, He killed everyone and everything save what made it on the Ark.  If a human did that it would not be moral.  There are several other atrocities in the bible that do not give us a very good moral compass.  If anything God does is moral, how can we get moral direction?

[Willa]

God is all knowing, all wise, compassionate and righteous. He was in a position to judge how evil everyone in the earth was at the time of Noah and draw the line.

We are not all knowing, all wise, or completely righteous but for Jesus imputing His rightousness on us and taking our sin on the cross.

We do not have the complete knowledge of situations to know what is best as He does. If most of us were to judge this world we would not be as patient as God has been. He waits till evil has run its full course and then still waits for hundreds of years so that all who may repent are given time to do so. He is also full of mercy and loving kindness toward those who come to Him in humble faith.

We look to Jesus' life as a guide to morals. We are told that God is love and we are to love other Christians especially, but to also have mercy on others in neeed.

What is scary is that our world is becoming much like the nations He proclaimed judgement on, especially our USA. He destroyed cities of gang raping homosexuals. He destroyed nations that burned their unwanted babies alive in the hands of baal, much like we burn babies in the womb with chemicals or pull them limb from limb and then have to count the body parts to make sure they got it all..Yes, it is horribly painful. Again, He is merciful and forgives those who come to Him in repentance. But our wickedness and adulteries have not gone un noticed.

Read Job 38-42:6 Who are we to question our Creator?

[kwikphilly]

Blessings jerry,

    I am not really following you either....atrocities,what type of atrocities?You are not referring to anything God does as atrocious are you?First of all,if God wishes to destroy anything or anyone that He created to begin with then He is God and He is just,I have never seen God "kill" anyone in the Bible,I see Him always giving His created a choice & they rebel,they literally spit in His face ,do not fear or revere Him & then suffer the consequence of their own actions...Divine judgement cannot in anyway be compared to men committing murder.

    jerry,may I ask?Are you a Christian?

                                                                                            With love ,in Christ-Kwik

[Fez]

 

I don't actually get what you are trying to ask.

Well, He killed everyone and everything save what made it on the Ark.  If a human did that it would not be moral.  There are several other atrocities in the bible that do not give us a very good moral compass.  If anything God does is moral, how can we get moral direction?

 

 If a human did that it would not be moral. 

 

Nope it would rather be impossible, or a miracle from God.

 

It's hard to fathom but God does everything out of love, everything. It's not about morals, it's about our Loving creator and His plan for creation.

[Guest]

How can God dictate morals when anything He does is, by definition, moral?

 

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Because Beloved

 

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. James 1:17

 

The Lord God

 

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

 

Loves

 

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Isaiah 1:18

 

Us

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

[alphaparticle]

How can God dictate morals when anything He does is, by definition, moral?

I think God is good because God always does good things. God doing good things perfectly, and knowing them perfectly, tells us what we need to do to be good.

 

What I just stated is my opinion and is actually fairly controversial lol, but it still strikes me as a decent way to approach these sorts of questions.

[jerryR34]

atrocities,what type of atrocities?You are not referring to anything God does as atrocious are you?

Well, frankly, yes.  Cutting open wombs and bashing babies' heads against rocks are atrocities.  I'm struggling with some stuff in the Old Testament.  How can we have absolute morality when some of the things the absolute authority on morality does would not be considered moral?

[jerryR34]

 

How can God dictate morals when anything He does is, by definition, moral?

I think God is good because God always does good things. God doing good things perfectly, and knowing them perfectly, tells us what we need to do to be good.

 

What I just stated is my opinion and is actually fairly controversial lol, but it still strikes me as a decent way to approach these sorts of questions.

 

For what it is worth, considering what I've read from you in posts related to science, I regard you opinion highly.  I guess I'm guilty of a plea to authority