The Cross that Jesus Died On !!!!!

[Guest Thomas I believe]

So what if pieces of the cross exist today?  After all, they are only bits of wood.  The true meaning of the crucifixion and the teachings of Jesus are what's important.

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Very true Neil. I was just curious because as a child unsaved in the catholic church , I remebered hearing about it so I wanted to find out if it was true now that I am out of the Catholic church. I guess the Catholic church has a perception that there better than everyone else that only they would get pieces of the cross if that is what truly happened. I agree with Rustyangels post. She nailed it right on.

Shalom

[Matthitjah]

Cain,

Your not under the Blood?

Peace,

Dave

[Ovedya]

The cross? Blood sacrifice? Pain & suffering?

You people don't find this the least bit strange?

I forgive freely & unconditionally. No blood necessary here!

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Yet you do not have the power to forgive sin, do you? Otherwise you would be God.

Obviously you do not understand the concept of the blood sacrifices and the significance of the Lord Jesus' death upon the cross. Would you like to know?

[Guest Thomas I believe]

Under the blood? No, because I live in the 21st century and I do not believe in blood sacrifices.

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Cain, The sacrifice was already made for you on the cross. I am curious what the 21st century has to do with salvation in Jesus Christ, that has never changed and never will. If theres one absolute it is this. Jesus died on the cross and shed His blood for all of us including you Cain and He loves us all and wants to be in our Life and reside in our hearts. All we got to do is let Him in. I take it from your comment, that you are not saved. I will pray that God opens your heart to the truth. The promises that God has made to us are true and will never change. The message contained in Gods word has always been the same, and was given for all men. Cain, Jesus can change your life in ways you never thought possible, joy and happiness that you have never experienced can be yours. I pray that you will meet the Living Sacrifice Jesus Christ...

6Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.

[Fr Chuck]

It would have continued to be used and used and used, untill it was not able to be used any longer. The Romans were experts at it, and often wood was in short supply.

They would hang people for miles down various roads leading into cities as warnings.

Also there is no agreement on the exact design and how the cross would have been hung. One of the less hollywood version would be that the people to die would have only carried the cross bar and most often they would not have had to carry anything, since the cross bar and upright would have already been in place. The Romans often used various trees for this also.

No one has any history of the actual cross, and it is doubtful short of heavenly insight that first the cross would have survived, and if it did, it would not be able to be determined from any other cross of that era.

There was one found that was claimed to be part of the cross of Christ, but it could never be actually proven.

No not every church got a piece of it. But every Catholic Church does have a relic of some sort at the alter of almost every church.

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I agree that the cross is long gone. And it's probably a good thing also, since most people are easily led to worship the object instead of God himself. Look back when Moses was leading the people from Egypt. The golden calf, the icon that the people were to look upon when they were bitten by serpents. Even today we see people worshipping and praying to idols. It is more important to rememeber why Christ died for us than be able to view the cross he died upon.

[Guest shiloh357]

I think that the tendency of some people towards idolatry is same reason why Jesus never left us a portrait of Himself. Its funny, I heard once that over in the Vatican they have a piece of stone with Jesus' blood on it, and it is claimed to be a piece of the balcony where Jesus stood while the religious leaders were calling for his death. Supposedly it is on display incased in glass. People will believe ANYTHING, it seems.

[JimR-OCDS]

I think that the tendency of some people towards idolatry is same reason why Jesus never left us a portrait of Himself.

Edited December 14, 2004 by JimR-OCDS

[JimR-OCDS]

Supposedly, St. Helena discovered the cross Jesus was crucified on, in Jerusalem. However, there is no way to prove the accuracy of the artifact.