Two Witnesses of Rev.11

[Spock]

Greetings PTP,

You said this-

Then I suddenly knew the answer. It became cyrstal clear immediately. Daniel's 70th week! The two witnesses begin their ministry on the exact day Daniel's 70th week begins. Revelation 11:3 states: "And I will give power unto my two witnesses and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. They are killed on the exact middle of Daniel's 70th week. Antichrist is his full given power on the exact midweek point. Revelation 13:5 states "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

How do you know the two witnesses begin their preaching on the day the 70th week begins? Why couldn't they begin it at the mid point instead? Where in and through scripture are you getting your theory? Thanks in advance.

[Spock]

Do a search on olive tree find out if it is two people or two nations maybe USA and G.B. Because things may change besides look who has been a wittness of christ what nations. So events 1260 days or years, 3 1/2 days, 3 1/2 years which is it, moreover if its a nation then two events them nations stand on their feet and just the dead in christ rise two events. If nations which is what  I think then we should see them being fulfill. Just to name one And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. this sounds like a drone attack to me or the 911 war. THINK about it

Greetings Ezekiel,

Ive read the following 100 times. It seems like two PEOPLE to me.

1I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. 3And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”a 5If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. 6They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.

7Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. 9For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

11But after the three and a half days the breathb of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

[Guest DRS81]

3.5 days means 3.5 years in Rev 11:11 I believe..

[RustyAngeL]

 

Daniel 9:24-27 is where you find The Prophecy known as the Seventy Weeks of Daniel or Daniel's seventy weeks concerns the jewish people and the city of Jerusalem.

 

    Daniel 9:24 begins with "Seventy weeks are determined For your people and your holy city", the prophecy is about the jewish people and the nation Israel and the city of Jerusalem.

 

   In verse 27 the He refers to the Antichrist, he is the prince of the people who destroy the city, the Romans refered to in verse 26. 

 

   In our near future the Antichrist will secure a covenant with Israel and many nations which will allow Israel to rebuild their temple which the Romans destroyed in 70ad. Temple sacrifice will start up again until the middle of the 70th week when the antichrist will kill the two witnesses of Revelation11 and stop the daily sacrifice because the antichrist will set up an image of himself in the temple (see Rev.13) I will do a thread on the seventy weeks prophecy which gave the exact day Jesus was cut off from the people April,6th 32ad.

 

     It would be smart to do the Daniel 70 weeks prophecy and then I can show how it ties together with the book of Revelation. I'm going to make a thread called "PreTrib Paul's Prophecy Pages" where I can keep all my prophecy pages in a group for references.

Thanks friend, but I'm still not convinced this is the a/c making a covenant with Israel. I know many tell us that is the case, but I need more.. Has Israel ever been referred to as " many" in the bible?

 

Neither am I and Spock is right Israel has never been referred to as "many" in the Bible.

[Guest DRS81]

 

 

Daniel 9:24-27 is where you find The Prophecy known as the Seventy Weeks of Daniel or Daniel's seventy weeks concerns the jewish people and the city of Jerusalem.

 

    Daniel 9:24 begins with "Seventy weeks are determined For your people and your holy city", the prophecy is about the jewish people and the nation Israel and the city of Jerusalem.

 

   In verse 27 the He refers to the Antichrist, he is the prince of the people who destroy the city, the Romans refered to in verse 26. 

 

   In our near future the Antichrist will secure a covenant with Israel and many nations which will allow Israel to rebuild their temple which the Romans destroyed in 70ad. Temple sacrifice will start up again until the middle of the 70th week when the antichrist will kill the two witnesses of Revelation11 and stop the daily sacrifice because the antichrist will set up an image of himself in the temple (see Rev.13) I will do a thread on the seventy weeks prophecy which gave the exact day Jesus was cut off from the people April,6th 32ad.

 

     It would be smart to do the Daniel 70 weeks prophecy and then I can show how it ties together with the book of Revelation. I'm going to make a thread called "PreTrib Paul's Prophecy Pages" where I can keep all my prophecy pages in a group for references.

Thanks friend, but I'm still not convinced this is the a/c making a covenant with Israel. I know many tell us that is the case, but I need more.. Has Israel ever been referred to as " many" in the bible?

 

Neither am I and Spock is right Israel has never been referred to as "many" in the Bible.

 

 

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/daniel-9-27.html

Sixty nine of the seventy weeks being accounted for, and the several events observed to be fulfilled in them; the angel proceeds to take notice of the remaining "one" week, or seven years, and what should be done within that space of time: a covenant should be confirmed with many; which is not to be understood of the Messiah's confirming the covenant of grace with many, or on account of all his people, by fulfilling the conditions of it, and by his blood and sacrifice, through which all the blessings of it come to them; for this is not for one week only, but for ever; but this is to be interpreted of the Roman people, spoken of in the latter part of the preceding verse; who, in order to accomplish their design to destroy the city and temple of Jerusalem, made peace with many nations, entered into covenant and alliance with them, particularly the Medes, Parthians, and Armenians, for the space of one week, or seven years; as it appears they did at the beginning of this week

[Spock]

Daniel 9:24-27 is where you find The Prophecy known as the Seventy Weeks of Daniel or Daniel's seventy weeks concerns the jewish people and the city of Jerusalem.

 

    Daniel 9:24 begins with "Seventy weeks are determined For your people and your holy city", the prophecy is about the jewish people and the nation Israel and the city of Jerusalem.

 

   In verse 27 the He refers to the Antichrist, he is the prince of the people who destroy the city, the Romans refered to in verse 26. 

 

   In our near future the Antichrist will secure a covenant with Israel and many nations which will allow Israel to rebuild their temple which the Romans destroyed in 70ad. Temple sacrifice will start up again until the middle of the 70th week when the antichrist will kill the two witnesses of Revelation11 and stop the daily sacrifice because the antichrist will set up an image of himself in the temple (see Rev.13) I will do a thread on the seventy weeks prophecy which gave the exact day Jesus was cut off from the people April,6th 32ad.

 

     It would be smart to do the Daniel 70 weeks prophecy and then I can show how it ties together with the book of Revelation. I'm going to make a thread called "PreTrib Paul's Prophecy Pages" where I can keep all my prophecy pages in a group for references.

Thanks friend, but I'm still not convinced this is the a/c making a covenant with Israel. I know many tell us that is the case, but I need more.. Has Israel ever been referred to as " many" in the bible?

Neither am I and Spock is right Israel has never been referred to as "many" in the Bible.

 

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/daniel-9-27.html

Sixty nine of the seventy weeks being accounted for, and the several events observed to be fulfilled in them; the angel proceeds to take notice of the remaining "one" week, or seven years, and what should be done within that space of time: a covenant should be confirmed with many; which is not to be understood of the Messiah's confirming the covenant of grace with many, or on account of all his people, by fulfilling the conditions of it, and by his blood and sacrifice, through which all the blessings of it come to them; for this is not for one week only, but for ever; but this is to be interpreted of the Roman people, spoken of in the latter part of the preceding verse; who, in order to accomplish their design to destroy the city and temple of Jerusalem, made peace with many nations, entered into covenant and alliance with them, particularly the Medes, Parthians, and Armenians, for the space of one week, or seven years; as it appears they did at the beginning of this week

Many nations according to this mans interpretation. This makes more sense to me.

So, I guess DRS, you are in mine and Rustyangels camp- don't believe "many" means Israel. We will see if anyone rises up to show use otherwise.

Btw DRS, I enjoy reading the commentaries you cut and paste, but you do know those commentaries are not god inspired and also subject to error, right?

[Guest DRS81]

 

 

 

 

Daniel 9:24-27 is where you find The Prophecy known as the Seventy Weeks of Daniel or Daniel's seventy weeks concerns the jewish people and the city of Jerusalem.

 

    Daniel 9:24 begins with "Seventy weeks are determined For your people and your holy city", the prophecy is about the jewish people and the nation Israel and the city of Jerusalem.

 

   In verse 27 the He refers to the Antichrist, he is the prince of the people who destroy the city, the Romans refered to in verse 26. 

 

   In our near future the Antichrist will secure a covenant with Israel and many nations which will allow Israel to rebuild their temple which the Romans destroyed in 70ad. Temple sacrifice will start up again until the middle of the 70th week when the antichrist will kill the two witnesses of Revelation11 and stop the daily sacrifice because the antichrist will set up an image of himself in the temple (see Rev.13) I will do a thread on the seventy weeks prophecy which gave the exact day Jesus was cut off from the people April,6th 32ad.

 

     It would be smart to do the Daniel 70 weeks prophecy and then I can show how it ties together with the book of Revelation. I'm going to make a thread called "PreTrib Paul's Prophecy Pages" where I can keep all my prophecy pages in a group for references.

Thanks friend, but I'm still not convinced this is the a/c making a covenant with Israel. I know many tell us that is the case, but I need more.. Has Israel ever been referred to as " many" in the bible?

Neither am I and Spock is right Israel has never been referred to as "many" in the Bible.

 

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/daniel-9-27.html

Sixty nine of the seventy weeks being accounted for, and the several events observed to be fulfilled in them; the angel proceeds to take notice of the remaining "one" week, or seven years, and what should be done within that space of time: a covenant should be confirmed with many; which is not to be understood of the Messiah's confirming the covenant of grace with many, or on account of all his people, by fulfilling the conditions of it, and by his blood and sacrifice, through which all the blessings of it come to them; for this is not for one week only, but for ever; but this is to be interpreted of the Roman people, spoken of in the latter part of the preceding verse; who, in order to accomplish their design to destroy the city and temple of Jerusalem, made peace with many nations, entered into covenant and alliance with them, particularly the Medes, Parthians, and Armenians, for the space of one week, or seven years; as it appears they did at the beginning of this week

Many nations according to this mans interpretation. This makes more sense to me.

So, I guess DRS, you are in mine and Rustyangels camp- don't believe "many" means Israel.

 

Israel is one of those nations. Jerusalem, Israel is where the third temple will be built, and the third temple is where the antichrist sets up shop in the great trib.

[Izzel]

Just curious, where does it say Israel makes a covenant with many nations?

" he will make a firm covenant with many..." Daniel 9

Which one is Israel? He or many? Why do you think that?

I think it is Jesus 

[missmuffet]

What specifically did you want to know about the two witnesses?

[Spock]

Just curious, where does it say Israel makes a covenant with many nations?

" he will make a firm covenant with many..." Daniel 9

Which one is Israel? He or many? Why do you think that?

I think it is Jesus

You are not alone thinking this Izzel. I still believe this is the anti Christ, but we shall see, won't we?