Bush supports cross-hating movement

[Ovedya]

Pagan programs??

[Guest Bro David™]

Wrong.  For an American President to not show religious bigotry, and to select a man well qualified persona to represent America - despite his sexual preference - is reflective of a strong leader and a good judge of character.

Are you even aware that Michael Guest served in the White House and in the United States government (Foriegn Affiars) in some capacity for 4 presidencies?  Take a look at his biography: http://www.osec.doc.gov/obl/romaniabulgari...Bio%20Guest.htm

Yet you openly criticize the Bush administration for not lambasting the man and holding him up as some kind of abominable gay sacrifice.  You say that election of a qualified man, with a distinguished career as a foreign diplomat, to an office which he is well qualified for, is wrong [unjustified, unforgivable, etc., etc.] because he is gay.

This is nothing short of religious bigotry of the type that certain southern churches loudly preached during the civil rights movement of 50s to 60s!

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Just off hand Bro...

An Ambassador would be one who promotes and represents your country to the country that he has been advocated to.

If indeed so, would not sending a openly gay person inadvertently align the U.S to be one who accepts and condones gay people and the lifestyle that ensues ?

How far different is accepting this, versus the sin of trying to use the Bible to say that homosexuality is okay ?

Can a message be pried from the sender or can a sender be pried from the message he gives ?

Just questions.

[Guest Bro David™]

I have merely been pointing out the fact that we do not live in a theocracy under the rule of a monarchial priesthood. the highest political office in the land has not authority of control the morality of the nation. But it does have the obligation to run the country according to the will of the people, without - and pay close attention here, because this is something that the religious bigots don't seem to understand - WITHOUT preference to or exclusion of any particular group of people. That means that if a man is qualified to hold a political office the President cannot discriminate against him for any reason, despite how he personally feels about him.

[Ovedya]

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[Guest Bro David™]

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[Ovedya]

I have merely been pointing out the fact that we do not live in a theocracy under the rule of a monarchial priesthood. The highest political office in the land has no authority to control the morality of the nation.

[Ovedya]

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[nebula]

Freedom of religion means freedom of religion!

Sometimes I wish it meant freedom from religion...

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Isn't that what the ACLU is trying to do?

[Ovedya]

Freedom of religion means freedom of religion!

Sometimes I wish it meant freedom from religion...

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Isn't that what the ACLU is trying to do?

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[NITE OWL]

This is for those who didn't like my 2 cents. Well here's 2 more.

First off I never said we should all stand up and back the president. Why get yourself all worked up over something you have no control over? The wheels were set into motion long before we were even thought of. You can't change that.

Look at the world around you. It is laden with sin. It's everywhere. You can't escape it. The only thing you can do is to toe that righteous line the best you can.

( I didn't know there was a homo bandwagon )

Now as for God cursing those who stumble. I never said that.

If you see a brother or sister doing something they shouldn't, correct them.

I don't claim to be perfect. I can't. I stumble constantly. As a matter of fact I fell a few times just reading this thread.

Everybody stumbles. I mean look at Peter. He walked with Christ. He sat down and had meals with Him. He witnessed the miracles performed by Christ and yet he denied Him.

When you stumble, get back up. How do you think a child learns to walk. He doesn't just lay there when he falls, he gets up and takes another step. He might fall a thousand times before he makes it ten feet but he never gives up.

Nobody's perfect. I'm not perfect. If I've offended any of you out there I am truly sorry and I apologize but I won't back down from my beliefs. I don't concern myself with the affairs of the world. I don't belong there. I used too, not anymore. I've seen what's out there. I lived it. I've seen the darker side of this world and I truly believe that knowledge brings me closer to God.

I know some people are put off by the way I word things, but that's me. I don't do sugar coating. I'll tell you like it is and if I'm wrong I'll be the first to admit it.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

Have a good one.

Nite Owl