the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

[justfaith]

 

 

The garden would probably have been destroyed in the flood. The tree of life and tree of knowledge probably died as well. The tree of life does not have to survive, God can grow another one in time for the New Heaven and Earth or just create one fully formed..

Then why put angels to protect it ? Could not God destroyed it on spot and not wait for the flood ? 

 

The garden survived for years before the Flood. That's why it was guarded by angels.

 

and the four rivers still exist with it source coming from the garden  

[Salty]

Hasn't anyone here ever read Ezekiel 31 and noticed who God is actually talking about there, or Judges 9 about the parable of the "bramble" and the "trees"? It's about Satan as a "cedar in Lebanon" in Ezek.31 (before and after he rebelled), and as the "bramble" in Judges 9 (already judged).

 

Doesn't anyone recall Hoses 14:8 where God says He is like a "green fir tree"?

 

Why the cedar and fir tree comparisons? A green fir tree does not shed leaves, but stays green year round, a proper symbol for our Heavenly Father and His Son Who is the same today, yesterday, and forever. But Satan wants... to be that green fir tree. God compares His righteous ones to a cedar in Lebanon (Ps.92). Even in Ezek.17 He gives this contrast of a rebellious high cedar and a "goodly cedar" about those He established as rulers over His people.

 

Satan is already judged and sentenced to perish in the "lake of fire" (Ezek.28:18), so the symbol of a "bramble" well fits him (that idea of the "bramble" is like an old dried up bush that when fire touches it, it suddenly goes up in flames with a very hot fire).

 

But Who is The BRANCH per God's Word? Who is The Root of Romans 11? Our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

Does one not see the contrast our Heavenly Father made with those tree type symbols in His Word?

 

See Ezekiel 47 in comparison with Revelation 22 about The Tree of Life. It involves real trees on either side of God's River of the Waters of Life. It's on earth per Ezek.47.

 

In Genesis 3, God moved His Eden to Heaven, with Him, which is what the flaming cherubim represent. Per Revelation, there are specific creatures around His Throne He created just to guard it ('zoon' in the Greek). So His Tree of Life was never destroyed, nor can it be.

 

But the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, though literally a tree in Eden before the fall, also represents Satan himself, for he once was a good cherub, but then rebelled and became evil.

 

And just so you know, the pagan systems of esoteric mysticism, including the Jewish Kabbalah, is a form of mystical study accompanied with initiation rites in hopes of spiritually attaining to Satan's 'tree'. We have the knowledge of Christ, they seek knowledge from the 'wrong' tree, the "bramble" that is to be destroyed.

[justfaith]

Hasn't anyone here ever read Ezekiel 31 and noticed who God is actually talking about there, or Judges 9 about the parable of the "bramble" and the "trees"? It's about Satan as a "cedar in Lebanon" in Ezek.31 (before and after he rebelled), and as the "bramble" in Judges 9 (already judged).

 

Doesn't anyone recall Hoses 14:8 where God says He is like a "green fir tree"?

 

Why the cedar and fir tree comparisons? A green fir tree does not shed leaves, but stays green year round, a proper symbol for our Heavenly Father and His Son Who is the same today, yesterday, and forever. But Satan wants... to be that green fir tree. God compares His righteous ones to a cedar in Lebanon (Ps.92). Even in Ezek.17 He gives this contrast of a rebellious high cedar and a "goodly cedar" about those He established as rulers over His people.

 

Satan is already judged and sentenced to perish in the "lake of fire" (Ezek.28:18), so the symbol of a "bramble" well fits him (that idea of the "bramble" is like an old dried up bush that when fire touches it, it suddenly goes up in flames with a very hot fire).

 

But Who is The BRANCH per God's Word? Who is The Root of Romans 11? Our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

Does one not see the contrast our Heavenly Father made with those tree type symbols in His Word?

 

See Ezekiel 47 in comparison with Revelation 22 about The Tree of Life. It involves real trees on either side of God's River of the Waters of Life. It's on earth per Ezek.47.

 

In Genesis 3, God moved His Eden to Heaven, with Him, which is what the flaming cherubim represent. Per Revelation, there are specific creatures around His Throne He created just to guard it ('zoon' in the Greek). So His Tree of Life was never destroyed, nor can it be.

 

But the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, though literally a tree in Eden before the fall, also represents Satan himself, for he once was a good cherub, but then rebelled and became evil.

 

And just so you know, the pagan systems of esoteric mysticism, including the Jewish Kabbalah, is a form of mystical study accompanied with initiation rites in hopes of spiritually attaining to Satan's 'tree'. We have the knowledge of Christ, they seek knowledge from the 'wrong' tree, the "bramble" that is to be destroyed.

Could you explain why the four rivers exist which its source is from the the garden ? the garden is still on the earth ? 

 

Is Moses buried on the earth ? Can anyone find him not even the devil can find him and he is more powerful than man 

[OakWood]

 

 

 

The garden would probably have been destroyed in the flood. The tree of life and tree of knowledge probably died as well. The tree of life does not have to survive, God can grow another one in time for the New Heaven and Earth or just create one fully formed..

Then why put angels to protect it ? Could not God destroyed it on spot and not wait for the flood ? 

 

The garden survived for years before the Flood. That's why it was guarded by angels.

 

and the four rivers still exist with it source coming from the garden  

 

 

A flood would not destroy any rivers but it would destroy a garden.

[terraricca]

hi

 

to me my understanding is that the tree was the tree of knowledge of good and bad .  not evil ,for God does not created evil ,

 

and understand that the only thing that tree was there for was to give the KNOWLEDGE OF "GOOD" AND ' BAD  '  THIS WAS DEFINITELY UNDERSTOOD AND ACCOMPLISH,

 

IT WAS THE TREE OF LIFE THAT WAS PREVENTING TO BE EATEN OF ; 

[other one]

good/bad,  good/evil,   right/wrong......   in context it's really the same concept....

 

 

 

btw  when God made freewill, he made evil possible.....   so it could still be "good/evil".

[justfaith]

 

 

 

 

The garden would probably have been destroyed in the flood. The tree of life and tree of knowledge probably died as well. The tree of life does not have to survive, God can grow another one in time for the New Heaven and Earth or just create one fully formed..

Then why put angels to protect it ? Could not God destroyed it on spot and not wait for the flood ? 

 

The garden survived for years before the Flood. That's why it was guarded by angels.

 

and the four rivers still exist with it source coming from the garden  

 

 

A flood would not destroy any rivers but it would destroy a garden.

 

So where is the source of the four rivers located in the which the four rivers we still have them today ?

[Salty]

Could you explain why the four rivers exist which its source is from the the garden ? the garden is still on the earth ? 

 

Is Moses buried on the earth ? Can anyone find him not even the devil can find him and he is more powerful than man 

 

 

God's Garden of Eden, also called Paradise, is no longer on earth today, but it is coming back, because God's Garden of Eden is about His dwelling place. Wherever He is, that's where His Eden is. I believe it was at the area of Jerusalem in the time of Adam. See end of Isaiah 19 where Assyria, Israel, and Egypt will each be one third of His future Kingdom in the Middle East, His highway connecting all three.

 

Today, only two of the four rivers of Gen.2 are known, both in modern Iraq, the Euphrates and Tigris.

 

We don't know where Moses' body was buried, God knows.

[Guest shiloh357]

There is no way to know if the modern rivers we call the Tigris and Euphrates rivers are the same ones mentioned in Genesis.  The  cataclysmic flood in Genesis would have completely changed the topography of the earth.   The four rivers mentioned there are likely not even detectable any longer.  Trying locate the Garden of Eden is a practice in futility.

[justfaith]

There is no way to know if the modern rivers we call the Tigris and Euphrates rivers are the same ones mentioned in Genesis.  The  cataclysmic flood in Genesis would have completely changed the topography of the earth.   The four rivers mentioned there are likely not even detectable any longer.  Trying locate the Garden of Eden is a practice in futility.

No one can locate the garden which is still on the earth because God hid it 

 

Does man know what is the true dept of the ocean or what creature are there why because God has prohibit man from alot of things 

 

The garden is here on the earth God just hid it as He did with Moses