Babbler Posted September 25, 2014 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 550 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/08/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2014 Studies have decided that it only takes ten per cent of the population to overthrow a government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted September 25, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,143 Content Per Day: 4.62 Reputation: 27,831 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2014 Blessings to Everyone No matter how you toss it or turn it,flip it or flop it.....muslims,citizens or not are a threat to ANYONE who is a non-muslim........when the time comes when they will be put to the test ,they will do as they are commanded to do or they will lose their own lives & the lives of their loved ones,,,,,,what do you think they will choose to do? We,as a Nation,should do everything & anything we can do to protect our people from potential harm,,,,,,if that means deporting the non-citizen ,then so be it,,,,,if it means registering the muslim citizen,yes,,,,,a wall or fence around our Southern borders,absolutely,,,,,,,,I am sure there are a few "non-religious" muslims that are citizens & might never hurt anyone at any cost but can we risk our childrens lives,our grandchildren,America? Well,if they have no evil intent then I would expect them to be the first in line to register,voluntarily! I am sorry,I love this Country & I agree 100% with Shiloh,other one,coheir,Cletus.......I don't hate ANYONE but I love my family,my friends & my fellow Americans too much to tolerate all this political correctness ,sympathizing & complacency With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted September 25, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2014 Islam is a theocracy.... and it is not compatible with any other government on earth. Judaism is a theocracy. Christianity (real Christianity) is a theocracy. Protecting the U.S. constitution is very important. It is that constitution which allows people of differing beliefs to co-exist in the U.S. Take the rights away from one group and you have opened the door to taking the rights away from other groups. I have no problem deporting illegal immigrants. I have no problem withdrawing a visa and deporting legal immigrants who are proven members of terrorist group. I have no problem upholding the U.S. law and arresting those who have violated the law. But, I do have a problem registering citizens based on their religion. That goes against the constitution and is very very dangerous. Dangerous for any religious group which might be unpopular. I also find it perturbing, when people target a group based on religion, ethnicity, or race, treating them as all potential criminals just because of their ethnicity, religion or race. I grew up being a recipient from those who generalized their perceptions across all who were Jewish, and took action based on such a false generalized view. So, I know it happens, and I do not care which group is targetted, I will defend the constitution. The U.S. government can not and should never target an entire group of people based on their religion. If some people of a particular religion are involved in illegal things, then go after those who are doing illegal things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 25, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,162 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,884 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2014 You can make anythong a theocracy when you accept it as the only religion of a country. But there is nothing in the NT that I see to make Christanity a governing thing. I do agree that Judaism is a theocracy and would be almost as bad as islam.. however Judaism does not demand Jews take over the whole world as does Islam. Christanity is a personal relationship with God not any form of government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted September 25, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2014 You can make anythong a theocracy when you accept it as the only religion of a country. But there is nothing in the NT that I see to make Christanity a governing thing. I do agree that Judaism is a theocracy and would be almost as bad as islam.. however Judaism does not demand Jews take over the whole world as does Islam. Christanity is a personal relationship with God not any form of government. Judaism also teaches that when the Messiah comes, he will be king of the Jews and will rule from Jerusalem. The Messiah will make war against all who are fighting against Israel and defeat the enemies. At that time, all nations who come against Israel will be judged. (This is all in scripture). Christianity teaches that Jesus is Lord and King. And will set up a government on earth. There are some differences in various views of soteriology, but many or most believe that, Jesus and His army (Christians) will return and defeat the enemy (nations), and will rule and reign on earth, with Christians judging. So all three see either a current theocracy or/and a future theocracy when each are victorious, defeating the 'enemy' which would be those who either fight them or believe differently then them. Now, I agree with one of the Christian end times scenarios and part of the scenario promoted by Judaism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 25, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,162 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,884 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2014 You can make anythong a theocracy when you accept it as the only religion of a country. But there is nothing in the NT that I see to make Christanity a governing thing. I do agree that Judaism is a theocracy and would be almost as bad as islam.. however Judaism does not demand Jews take over the whole world as does Islam. Christanity is a personal relationship with God not any form of government. Judaism also teaches that when the Messiah comes, he will be king of the Jews and will rule from Jerusalem. The Messiah will make war against all who are fighting against Israel and defeat the enemies. At that time, all nations who come against Israel will be judged. (This is all in scripture). Christianity teaches that Jesus is Lord and King. And will set up a government on earth. There are some differences in various views of soteriology, but many or most believe that, Jesus and His army (Christians) will return and defeat the enemy (nations), and will rule and reign on earth, with Christians judging. So all three see either a current theocracy or/and a future theocracy when each are victorious, defeating the 'enemy' which would be those who either fight them or believe differently then them. Now, I agree with one of the Christian end times scenarios and part of the scenario promoted by Judaism. I don't see how you can compare a government today to the time when Jesus comes...... when Jesus comes we will have a king..... that is a dictatorship..... and though it will be great, it's not comparable with anything on earth since God left the temple of the Hebrews thousands of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevosper Posted September 27, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 317 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 133 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/24/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2014 And when the government decides Christians are a threat...should they be kicked out as well? Nope, you build a fence and lock 'em in so they can't escape. Think iron curtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted September 28, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Requiring muslims to register is just as wrong as requiring the japanese to-especially if theyre american citizens. Our constition supposedly protects the rights of all-thats not doing it. Im in favor of closing our borders and making it difficult to get in-I think that would alleviate the problem quite a lot. But as far as requiring any american citizen to register just because of their choice of religion-is not only a violation of the constition but it goes against everything America stands for. Thats not freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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