Tattoos

[rjp34652]

If i didn't come to know Jesus as my Lord , i may very well have had a few tattoos. However, i no longer want to put markings on my body now . What do you think of all these tattoo reality shows? It is a lifestyle and a profession but as christians we should be seperate from it. I was very intrigued of these tattooists but felt bad that some collect crosses, rosaries and skulls and also collects some ungodly art etc. I would just love for these people to embrace Jesus and have an encounter with Him and leave those things that don't glorify Him alone. Any thoughts?

 

 

Tattoos are forbidden in the book of Leviticus.     The Holy Spirit would not be comfortable with a person who got one.  Jesus' ministry is to fulfill the law, not subvert it.

 

To those who question this, I simply say that unless you have the love of God in your heart you WILL be judged by the law.

 

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

[Guest Teditis]

Is there immorality in a tattoo?

[Guest]

Is there immorality in a tattoo?

 

 

Is There Immorality

 

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Matthew 23:27

 

In A Spotless Skin?

 

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? John 11:25-26

[Guest Teditis]

Excellent point!

[Sevenseas]

I need to once again address Sevenseas and the problem with the positions she has taken.  Sevenseas, I want you to look at this carefully to see exactly what my issue is with you so you can address it directly.  You have said I am wrong for holding to part of the law and not other parts of the law.  At the same time, you do hold to part of the law, while disregarding other portions of the law.  I have seen you directly come against people for committing adultery, and the commandment against adultery is part of the law of Moses.  In other instances, I have seen you disregard laws such as the one that prohibits a woman from wearing clothing that pertains to a man.  They both come from the law of Moses, so you have clearly chosen to regard one law while disregarding another, while at the same time, telling me to hold to some laws while disregarding others is not Biblical.  You have claimed you stand against sin, but sin is the transgression of the law, the very law you say we are not under.  If we are not under the law, then we cannot sin, because where there is no law, there is no transgression.  That means we are free to do as we please, so you should never have reason to find fault with anyone for anything.  How can you come against sin when you have stated we are not under the law?  I would greatly appreciate it if you would directly address these inconsistencies.  Thank you in advance. 

 

 

uh huh. 

 

you have consistently not responded to any verses myself and others have quoted regarding the law with reference to the NT

 

For example:For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh  Romans 8:3

 

NO portion of the law is able to save ANYONE

 

I believe things have been explained quite nicely in the other thread you started that directly references your questions...

 

As I agree with other responders who do NOT have your understanding, perhaps you might just refer back to those both in the aforementionned thread and in others

in which I have addressed your same question put to me in various ways but always with the seeming intent to somehow change what I actually wrote even though much of

it is a direct response from scripture, with references, to check them out

 

Your post, to which I am currently responding, is another example of you misquoting me and putting a spin on what I post

 

Maybe you could explain why you seem to do that, because I don't find it useful at all

 

I believe the inconsistencies to which you refer are actually your inability to be able to understand that the law does not save and keeing the law does not save

and following Christ means you will no longer have the desire to continue to sin

 

God always had in mind the perfect sacrifice...the law was given to point out sin.  He gave us Jesus to keep the law and we IN Him, do so ourselves

 

I just do not think you quite understand that.

[Sevenseas]

 

If i didn't come to know Jesus as my Lord , i may very well have had a few tattoos. However, i no longer want to put markings on my body now . What do you think of all these tattoo reality shows? It is a lifestyle and a profession but as christians we should be seperate from it. I was very intrigued of these tattooists but felt bad that some collect crosses, rosaries and skulls and also collects some ungodly art etc. I would just love for these people to embrace Jesus and have an encounter with Him and leave those things that don't glorify Him alone. Any thoughts?

 

 

Tattoos are forbidden in the book of Leviticus.     The Holy Spirit would not be comfortable with a person who got one.  Jesus' ministry is to fulfill the law, not subvert it.

 

To those who question this, I simply say that unless you have the love of God in your heart you WILL be judged by the law.

 

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

 

 

 

I don't care for tatoos and have  no problem telling people its better not to get one.  However, if someone does, as a Christian have one done, I would not agree

that the Holy Spirit leaves that person...or is 'uncomfortable' with that person

 

That really smacks of what we do is more important than heart issues

 

Again, I am fine saying do not get a tatoo...I don't think we should actually, but this confusion with the law in our standing with God is what upsets me

 

So many many people already struggle with issues like that...condemnation...or loosing your salvation every 5 minutes...its no wonder some get confused,

hurt, feel rejected and just walk away

 

Thank God, we have the Good Shepherd who does in fact, actually go out after that one sheep and brings it back to Himself

 

I have to say, that right now, I am so over judgemental and self righteous Christians ...those who view their salvation as something they have to keep by what they do...

that I think it must be a stink in God's nostrils

 

I am anything but the best example of a Christian...yet (and I think this is a big yet) I KNOW that a desire to be what and who God wants me to be, burns in my heart,

but I will tell you...there is NO Christian on this earth that put that desire there because most Christians I have known or almost ALL have miserably failed me as

have I failed those whom I loved the most

 

I really think people need to get their stuff together and understand that no one is better than another and in the end, ONLY What Christ has accomplished will get you

to heaven on the other side...the rest is just wishful thinking

 

 

 

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

 

I've been in the choir loft and left because the atmosphere is just too thin.  I found Jesus was a little closer to the earth with most of the regular folk and still trying

to get His original message across

[Guest Butero]

If all of what you claim is true, why not humor me and directly answer what I asked?  As far as the scriptures go that you used earlier, all it is saying is that simply turning over a new leaf and following the law cannot save you, because the penalty for a single sin is death.  As such, we are saved by grace, but that in no wise means we don't have to live right after salvation to remain saved.  Now I am still waiting for you to answer my post to you, that is, if you can.  I don't believe you can give a satisfactory answer, and that is why you keep using smoke an mirror tactics to avoid it. 

 

You have consistently used portions of the law while coming against other portions of the law, while you tell me we cannot do that.  Thou shalt not commit adultery is part of the same law of Moses that gave us Deuteronomy 22:5.  How is it you can hold to part of the law while refusing to accept other parts of the law while telling me I can't hold to part of the law while refusing to keep the entire law?  I am not even speaking in light of remaining saved at this point, but merely standing for what God said. 

[Sevenseas]

Better yet, humor all of us and explain away the New Testament references.

 

The problem for you, is that in your keeping of certain parts of the law, you are holding the law over your own head and you just do not recognize that even

though scripture tells us in the most simple of words that is what happens.

 

That may also be why you seemingly cannot understand what most folks here state, which, again, I am in agreement with.

 

So, perhaps you just actually need to source that other thread and satisfy your humor over there as you may consider those responses in opposition to your

viewpoint, as my own.

[ncn]

Locking this for time out. 

It may or not be reopened.