The 4 Spirits / Winds of Heaven.

[Enoch2021]

 

 

btw...

 

"There’s no easy way to say this, so I’ll just say it: We’re no longer No. 1. Today, we’re No. 2. Yes, it’s official. The Chinese economy just overtook the United States economy to become the largest in the world. For the first time since Ulysses S. Grant was president, America is not the leading economic power on the planet."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/official-america-now-no-2-150936444.html

 

Does this change the identities of the beasts in Daniel 7    ...whereby impacting "your" secular theory? By my recollection, China was nowhere to be found in "your" scenario.

 

Be back Monday.....Keep the Light On.     

[Marilyn C]

Hi Enoch2021,

 

Yes, we`ll be here. But China is not a super power, only a middle power. Probably need to discuss what makes a super power.

 

Much to discuss, see you,

 

Back to my homework, (How, when, where, why...in triplicate.)

 

 

Marilyn.

Edited December 5, 2014 by Marilyn C

[Enoch2021]

Hi Enoch2021,

 

Yes, we`ll be here. But China is not a super power, only a middle power. Probably need to discuss what makes a super power.

 

Much to discuss, see you,

 

Back to my homework, (How, when, where, why...in triplicate.)

 

 

Marilyn.

 

 

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How can you conclude China is a "middle power" (whatever that means) if we ...."need to discuss what makes a super power" ??  Sounds like you have the answer "before" the analysis.... 

 

That ='s "a priori" adherence.

 

 

So we already know Economically/Financially <------- this is "a biggie", who the Top Dog is........China.

 

The next category is obviously Military Strength:  Based on a 10 or so Metrics, a Power Index was created, these are the Top 10 as of April 2014: http://www.globalfirepower.com/

 

1. US

2. Russia

3. China

4. India

5. United Kingdom

6. France

7. Germany

8. Turkey

9. South Korea

10. Japan

 

Human Resources/Population: 1.  China. 2. India......................................the rest aren't in the remote Zip Code.

 

Natural Resources Rank:  http://247wallst.com/special-report/2012/04/18/the-worlds-most-resource-rich-countries/2/

 

1. Russia

2. US

3. Saudi Arabia

4. Canada

5. Iran

6. China

7. Brazil

8. Australia

9. Iraq

10. Venezuela  

 

The Number 1 Exporter in 2013:  China with 2.21 Trillion $$ Worth of Goods.  #2. European Union

 

* Rice Production:  in a Land Slide:  China

 

* Personal Computer Production:  Another Land Slide; over 90% of the World's Computers are made in China.

 

* Walmart = China  

 

 

When you say "middle power" does that mean between 1 and 1.5?

 

And where is this "Islamic Federation" Super Power?

 

 

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[Marilyn C]

Hi Enoch2021,

 

Thank you Enoch for all those details. Very interesting. I do take your point that China is on the rise, though.

 

The term `middle power` or `potential super power,` is used by research institutes & the media. And I`m sure you would be listening to those!!!!

 

Now as you have delineated - Economic / Financial, military, resources.....

 

However do you realise that the USA`s military strength is more than all the rest of the world together.

 

Also `who is China`s leader?` You probably know, but most people do not. Meaning - who does the world listen to. Who is in charge of the premier world forums - G7 &, G20, Political, economic, financial, business, etc etc.

 

Who controls the world biggest banks, the BIS, the big daddy of them all, the FSB, who writes the rules & regulations, the IMF, the World Bank group, the UN, & all the other infrastructure that the Globalists are setting up & empowering.

 

 

On paper, China may seem `big` & important, but it still has its political head in its own yard & it is just learning how to play with the big boys.

 

Marilyn.

Edited December 7, 2014 by Marilyn C

[Marilyn C]

In relation to the discussion of the `4 spirits of heaven,` Enoch has asked some important questions – Context, Who, What, When..... This is important, so instead of just `pulling out` a scripture to look at, I have put together a short overview.

We know that Christ is the centre & purpose of His written word, (Luke 24: 27) & the 4 fold ministry of Christ – the King, Sacrifice (Heir), Mediator & Deity (Judge) are all unfolded to us from Genesis to Revelation. The Old Testament books `foreshadow, foresee, foreknow & foretell` of Christ in these ministries, while the New Testament shows Christ 4 fold ministry on earth (Gospels), in His Body, & in heaven (Revelation).

Now we are specifically looking at the book of Zechariah which comes in the `foretelling of Christ` section – the prophets. It brings out the High Priest aspect of Christ`s ministry connected to His Kingship. `He shall be a priest on His throne.` (Zech. 6: 13) A Royal Priest, a King Priest. These two offices were always separate but in Christ they come together as only He is worthy to rule & mediate. Now let`s look at the setting of the book of Zechariah.

Zechariah is a prophet in Jerusalem to the remnant of the Jews who returned from Babylon after the 70 years of captivity. They were once a powerful nation but now rather an insignificant remnant, dwelling in their promised land only because of the courtesy of a foreign ruler – King Darius. (Zech. 1: 1)

Both Haggai, (another prophet) & Zechariah tried to tell the people that it would not always be so. One day the Messiah would come & God`s chosen people would rise to power. Zechariah strengthened the people of Israel as they built the temple & warned them not to disappoint God as their fathers had done. By the Spirit of God, he quickened their hopes by painting in glowing colours the time of perpetual blessing that was coming to Israel in the far off ages.

There are 2 sections in the book of Zechariah.

Section 1. (Zech. Ch. 1 – 6) There are 8 visions concerning God`s zeal for Jerusalem & his exceeding anger with the nations for the evil intent. (Zech. 1: 13 & 14) Thus we see the visions of God dealing with the nations prior to the crowning of the King Priest – Christ. It is this section we will be looking at.

Section 2. (Zech. 7 – 14) These chapters are full of the coming Messiah & a worldwide kingdom.

` entry into Jerusalem on a colt, Good shepherd, smitten shepherd, betrayed by 30 pieces of silver, hands pierced, people saved, wounded in the house of His friends, coming on Mt Olives, His coronation. `

Interesting to note that the prophet Daniel was also in this time, however he lived in the city of Babylon & prophesied much more detail of the nations judgment, than Zechariah. Each have their part though in what God is showing us of end-times, of God bringing the nations to judgment & the setting up of His kingdom & His King – Christ.


 

[Marilyn C]

Enoch has also asked me (quite correctly) to support my view of `the 4 spirits / winds of heaven.` (Zech. 6: 1- 6 & Dan. 7: 2) He then suggested that I may need to touch on some of the previous 5 chapters in Zechariah.

In the first six chapters of Zechariah, I believe God shows us a panoramic view of God`s plans. `Throughout the whole earth,` is mentioned 7 times, indicating a complete overview of what is happening in relation to God`s plan.

God says, “I am zealous for Jerusalem & for Zion with great zeal. I am exceedingly angry with the nations...` (Zech. 1: 14 & 15)

From there we see God dealing with the powers (horns) that have scattered Judah, & also future, anyone who touches the `apple of His eye.` The Lord will build up Jerusalem & be the wall of protection, the fire, the glory in her midst. And their iniquity as a nation will be removed as symbolised by the High priest, Joshua given clean clothes. Then we are told of God`s servant, the Branch, (Christ coming from the Father) with the two anointed offices of King & Priest. It is He who will accomplish this restoration, in the power of the Holy Spirit. (The 7 fold Holy Spirit – 7 eyes) (Zech. 4: 6 & 10)

The stage is set & we then see God`s plan unfold. The judgments are released upon people & governments.

1. Moral Judgments. `the scroll,` that goes out over the face of the whole earth.` (Zech, 5: 3) Judgment of the thief –(rob, kill & destroy. John 10: 10) & on those who swear falsely by God`s name.

2. Man`s Government. The Religious & Economic aspects. These have `their resemblance throughout the earth.` (Zech. 5: 6) They are outlined in Hebrew idiom. (a mode of expression peculiar to a language.)

Ephod – a measure (economic aspect)
Woman – false religion
2 women carrying it away to Shinar – Babylon

This depicts the rise of a commercial enterprise that will eventually transfer its authority & operation to a headquarters prepared specifically in the Middle East – Babylon.

 

We see the Religious & Economic aspect in Rev. 13: 15 & 16,  and Rev. 17: 3,   18: 11.

 

Edited December 7, 2014 by Marilyn C

[Enoch2021]

Hi Enoch2021,

 

Thank you Enoch for all those details. Very interesting. I do take your point that China is on the rise, though.

 

The term `middle power` or `potential super power,` is used by research institutes & the media. And I`m sure you would be listening to those!!!!

 

Now as you have delineated - Economic / Financial, military, resources.....

 

However do you realise that the USA`s military strength is more than all the rest of the world together.

 

Also `who is China`s leader?` You probably know, but most people do not. Meaning - who does the world listen to. Who is in charge of the premier world forums - G7 &, G20, Political, economic, financial, business, etc etc.

 

Who controls the world biggest banks, the BIS, the big daddy of them all, the FSB, who writes the rules & regulations, the IMF, the World Bank group, the UN, & all the other infrastructure that the Globalists are setting up & empowering.

 

 

On paper, China may seem `big` & important, but it still has its political head in its own yard & it is just learning how to play with the big boys.

 

Marilyn.

 

 

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Thank you Enoch for all those details. Very interesting. I do take your point that China is on the rise, though.

 

 

My point is that it's not "On the Rise".....my point is, "it's already here".

 

 

The term `middle power` or `potential super power,` is used by research institutes & the media. And I`m sure you would be listening to those!!!!

 

 

The term(s) is used by the media?     It's an understatement to say, "I'm not following ya here".

 

 

However do you realise that the USA`s military strength is more than all the rest of the world together.

 

 

No, I don't realize.  Please go ahead and delineate Why/ How so?

 

Go ahead and list the Scripture/Scriptures that specifically speak to the USA......?

 

 

Who is in charge of the premier world forums - G7 &, G20, Political, economic, financial, business, etc etc.

 

 

China is "numero uno"----financially speaking, as I've already CITED.   G7 and G20, eh?

 

List the members of the G7 and: inception date, criteria to be apart of, mission ect.....?

 

List the members of the G20 and: "   " from above.

 

 

Can you also speak to this...

 

"We are now living in a G-Zero world, one in which no single country or bloc of countries has the political and economic leverage—or the will—to drive a truly international agenda," wrote Bremmer and economist Nouriel Roubini in Foreign Affairs in 2011."

http://www.cfr.org/international-organizations-and-alliances/group-seven-g7/p32957

 

 

Who controls the world biggest banks, the BIS, the big daddy of them all, the FSB, who writes the rules & regulations, the IMF, the World Bank group, the UN, & all the other infrastructure that the Globalists are setting up & empowering.

 

 

The same family that is responsible for every single war from the French Revolution to now and solely responsible for establishing Israel's Homeland (which was their goal from "Jump Street") and bringing them back in 1948.  You tell me....?

 

 

On paper, China may seem `big` & important, but it still has its political head in its own yard & it is just learning how to play with the big boys.

 

 

Nice Baseless Opinion.  "Where's The Beef" i.e., Support ??

[Enoch2021]

Enoch has also asked me (quite correctly) to support my view of `the 4 spirits / winds of heaven.` (Zech. 6: 1- 6 & Dan. 7: 2) He then suggested that I may need to touch on some of the previous 5 chapters in Zechariah.

In the first six chapters of Zechariah, I believe God shows us a panoramic view of God`s plans. `Throughout the whole earth,` is mentioned 7 times, indicating a complete overview of what is happening in relation to God`s plan.

God says, “I am zealous for Jerusalem & for Zion with great zeal. I am exceedingly angry with the nations...` (Zech. 1: 14 & 15)

From there we see God dealing with the powers (horns) that have scattered Judah, & also future, anyone who touches the `apple of His eye.` The Lord will build up Jerusalem & be the wall of protection, the fire, the glory in her midst. And their iniquity as a nation will be removed as symbolised by the High priest, Joshua given clean clothes. Then we are told of God`s servant, the Branch, (Christ coming from the Father) with the two anointed offices of King & Priest. It is He who will accomplish this restoration, in the power of the Holy Spirit. (The 7 fold Holy Spirit – 7 eyes) (Zech. 4: 6 & 10)

The stage is set & we then see God`s plan unfold. The judgments are released upon people & governments.

1. Moral Judgments. `the scroll,` that goes out over the face of the whole earth.` (Zech, 5: 3) Judgment of the thief –(rob, kill & destroy. John 10: 10) & on those who swear falsely by God`s name.

2. Man`s Government. The Religious & Economic aspects. These have `their resemblance throughout the earth.` (Zech. 5: 6) They are outlined in Hebrew idiom. (a mode of expression peculiar to a language.)

Ephod – a measure (economic aspect)

Woman – false religion

2 women carrying it away to Shinar – Babylon

This depicts the rise of a commercial enterprise that will eventually transfer its authority & operation to a headquarters prepared specifically in the Middle East – Babylon.

 

We see the Religious & Economic aspect in Rev. 13: 15 & 16,  and Rev. 17: 3,   18: 11.

 

 

 

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1.  Ephod – a measure (economic aspect)

2.  Woman – false religion

3.  2 women carrying it away to Shinar – Babylon

 

4.  This depicts the rise of a commercial enterprise that will eventually transfer its authority & operation to a headquarters prepared specifically in the Middle East – Babylon.

We see the Religious & Economic aspect in Rev. 13: 15 & 16,  and Rev. 17: 3,   18: 11.

 

 

1.  It's not, in this specific case....

 

0374   //  hpya  //  'eyphah   //  ay-faw'  //  or (shortened)

   //  hpa  //  'ephah   //  ay-faw'  // 

 

of Egyptian derivation; TWOT - 82; n f

AV - ephah 34, measure(s) 6; 40

 

1) ephah

1a) a dry measure of quantity, equal to 3 seahs, 10 omers; the same

as the liquid measure bath; (about 9 imperial gallons (40 l),

rabbinical writings give sizes of one-half this amount)

1b) the receptacle for measuring or holding that amount.

 

Context context context....

 

(Zechariah 5:8) "And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof."

 

This is a Receptacle.  He didn't cast a lead weight on the mouth of an Economic Aspect. 

 

2.  is "Mystery Babylon".  She was born in Babylon (Nimrod, Semiramus, Tammuz) all False Religions were birthed there.

 

3.  Those 2 woman had wings of a stork = "Unclean Bird".

 

4.  The Woman "Wickedness" in the midst of the ephah.... is the harlot "False Religions" "Mystery Babylon" ----- the same the beast is riding in Revelation, she's going home.....established on her own base.  

 

(Zechariah 5:11) "And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base."

 

To be set upon her own base.....she must have left it first, to have "A Base" to return to.  If Babylon's the city, Shinar is the county.  Check

 

This means that "she" Mystery Babylon (PM me if your unsure who this is) will be in place (Home) before the End Times.  This reconciles all the Present Tense References in the Book of Revelation concerning Babylon (That more or less dissolved into history thousands of years ago) that had me quite perplexed.

 

 

From there we see God dealing with the powers (horns) that have scattered Judah, 

 

 

(Zechariah 1:18-19) "Then lifted I up mine eyes, and saw, and behold four horns.  {19} And I said unto the angel that talked with me, What be these? And he answered me, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem."

 

Are you saying that the "four horns" in this passage = the four winds/spirits, here?....

 

(Zechariah 6:4-5) "Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord?  {5} And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth."

 

And where/how do the " four horns" here fit with the "Ten Horns"/Ten Toes" (KINGS) of Daniel Chapter 2 and 7 ??

[Marilyn C]

Hi Enoch2021,

Thank you for your comments so far. Now regarding the Hebrew idiom of Zech. 5: 5 – 11, we both agree concerning the religious aspect, the woman, being false religion taken to Babylon & put on her own base. Yes Shinar is the country, however Babylon is the city from which people rule.

Now if all God wanted to show was spiritual wickedness then `the woman` would have been suffice. However we see the Ephah is included. This symbolises a receptacle for measuring things. God is very concerned that people have just balances.

`Thus says the Lord God: “Enough, O princes of Israel! Remove violence & plundering, execute justice & righteousness, & stop dispossessing my people” says the Lord God. “You shall have just balances, a just ephah & a just bath.....` (Ez. 45: 9 & 10)

We see God`s concern regarding this `economic` injustice in the end-times.

`Come now, you rich, weep & howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! Your riches are corrupted, & your garments are moth-eaten......Indeed the wages of the labourers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; & the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.

You have lived on the earth in pleasure & luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you. (James 5: 1 – 6)

We also see God`s concern for a just measurement represented by `scales` for measuring & revealing how man was operating unjustly in economic matters.

`Behold a black horse, & he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. .....A quart of wheat for a denarius, & three quarters of barley for a denarius;....` (Rev. 6: 5 & 6)

Then we see God`s judgment on the centre of the world`s economic infrastructure – the city of Babylon.

`Babylon the great has fallen, is fallen, ( note 2 aspects –religious & economic)...For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, & the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.` (economic trading)

And the merchants of the earth will weep & mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more.` (Rev. 18: 2, 3, & 11)


We are now coming to Zech. 6 & the 4 spirits/winds of heaven.

 

Marilyn.
 

[Enoch2021]

Hi Enoch2021,

Thank you for your comments so far. Now regarding the Hebrew idiom of Zech. 5: 5 – 11, we both agree concerning the religious aspect, the woman, being false religion taken to Babylon & put on her own base. Yes Shinar is the country, however Babylon is the city from which people rule.

Now if all God wanted to show was spiritual wickedness then `the woman` would have been suffice. However we see the Ephah is included. This symbolises a receptacle for measuring things. God is very concerned that people have just balances.

`Thus says the Lord God: “Enough, O princes of Israel! Remove violence & plundering, execute justice & righteousness, & stop dispossessing my people” says the Lord God. “You shall have just balances, a just ephah & a just bath.....` (Ez. 45: 9 & 10)

We see God`s concern regarding this `economic` injustice in the end-times.

`Come now, you rich, weep & howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! Your riches are corrupted, & your garments are moth-eaten......Indeed the wages of the labourers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; & the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.

You have lived on the earth in pleasure & luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you. (James 5: 1 – 6)

We also see God`s concern for a just measurement represented by `scales` for measuring & revealing how man was operating unjustly in economic matters.

`Behold a black horse, & he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. .....A quart of wheat for a denarius, & three quarters of barley for a denarius;....` (Rev. 6: 5 & 6)

Then we see God`s judgment on the centre of the world`s economic infrastructure – the city of Babylon.

`Babylon the great has fallen, is fallen, ( note 2 aspects –religious & economic)...For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, & the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.` (economic trading)

And the merchants of the earth will weep & mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more.` (Rev. 18: 2, 3, & 11)

We are now coming to Zech. 6 & the 4 spirits/winds of heaven.

 

Marilyn.

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you for your comments so far. Now regarding the Hebrew idiom of Zech. 5: 5 – 11, we both agree concerning the religious aspect, the woman, being false religion taken to Babylon & put on her own base. Yes Shinar is the country, however Babylon is the city from which people rule.

 

 

I said if Shinar's the "county"  (Not "Country") then Babylon is the City.  And as I said, she will return to her own base <--------- the Key Part of the Passage.

 

 

`Thus says the Lord God: “Enough, O princes of Israel! Remove violence & plundering, execute justice & righteousness, & stop dispossessing my people” says the Lord God. “You shall have just balances, a just ephah & a just bath.....` (Ez. 45: 9 & 10)

 

We see God`s concern regarding this `economic` injustice in the end-times.

 

 

It doesn't, as I have shown you:

 

0374   //  hpya  //  'eyphah   //  ay-faw'  //  or (shortened)

   //  hpa  //  'ephah   //  ay-faw'  //

 

of Egyptian derivation; TWOT - 82; n f

AV - ephah 34, measure(s) 6; 40

 

1) ephah

1a) a dry measure of quantity, equal to 3 seahs, 10 omers; the same

as the liquid measure bath; (about 9 imperial gallons (40 l),

rabbinical writings give sizes of one-half this amount)

1b) the receptacle for measuring or holding that amount.

 

Context context context....

(Zechariah 5:8) "And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof."

This is a Receptacle.  He didn't cast "Wickedness" into a measurement.    He didn't cast a lead weight on the mouth of an Economic Aspect.

 

Also, what would that "weight of lead" do to the measurement? 

 

(Zechariah 5:10) "Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?"

 

Are they "bearing" a measurement or are they "bearing" a Receptacle?

 

Also a Measurement doesn't = Economic or Financial Situation.  Does 12 ounces/grams = Financial Concerns or a Recipe?  You need "context", correct? (SEE: previous)

 

So then you take an Ezekiel Passages' Ephah "out of context" as your proof text for Zechariah ?  

 

 

We see God`s concern regarding this `economic` injustice in the end-times.

 

`Come now, you rich, weep & howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! Your riches are corrupted, & your garments are moth-eaten......Indeed the wages of the labourers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; & the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.

 

You have lived on the earth in pleasure & luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you. (James 5: 1 – 6)

We also see God`s concern for a just measurement represented by `scales` for measuring & revealing how man was operating unjustly in economic matters.

`Behold a black horse, & he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. .....A quart of wheat for a denarius, & three quarters of barley for a denarius;....` (Rev. 6: 5 & 6)

 

 

 

Can you please connect the Ephah in Zechariah coherently to these passages?

 

btw... the passages in Revelation are not depicting/suggesting a "just" or "unjust" measure ...it's referring to Inflation.  That is to say, "a denarius" was typical back then for a Day's Wages.  So as you can see, that will be a problem since that amount of wheat or barley (Animal Feed) can't feed a grown man let alone a family. 

 

Please show how this is Specifically Referring to End Times....

 

(James 5:1-6) "Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.  {2} Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.  {3} Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.  {4} Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.  {5} Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.  {6} Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you."

 

"For" the last days....not specifically, in the last days.

 

Swindling/Economic Frauds/Injustices/Greed have been here from the beginning.  So your concept speaks to business as usual and could be applied throughout history.  As mentioned previously, if it can explain most anything.....then, it explains nothing.

 

 

Now if all God wanted to show was spiritual wickedness then `the woman` would have been suffice. However we see the Ephah is included. This symbolises a receptacle for measuring things. God is very concerned that people have just balances.

 

 

Not according to the definition...

 

1) ephah

1a) a dry measure of quantity, equal to 3 seahs, 10 omers; the same

as the liquid measure bath; (about 9 imperial gallons (40 l),

rabbinical writings give sizes of one-half this amount)

1b) the receptacle for measuring or holding that amount.

 

And as mentioned, the context "Bearing" and "in the midst" along with a weight of lead (on the mouth) renders a measurement or any extrapolation of a distinct measurement and/or implications thereof, quite irrelevant.