Bare minimum requirements to be Christian

[OneLight]

I have already found Jesus. I am past the beginning, and searching for the end - when God will be all in all.

John 14:17

John 14:20

Galatians 4:6

Romans 8:15

What kind of child would I be if I did not seek Father?

I would seriously like to know what you guys have been doing? Do you not understand anything about what is going on?

Read all of Ephesians 1 and pay attention to every word.

10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

 

We are told in scripture that if we know Jesus, we will know the Father.  That is very clear.  I suggest that the closer you get to Christ, the more you will know the Father.

 

I am not quite sure what you are referring to when asking what we have been doing and if we understand anything about what is going on.  Can you explain your words a little clearer so we can know what you are asking, or accusing us of?

[Cog]

To understand what Jesus was telling Phillip, think of Jesus as these words and Father as the understanding and awareness to the words - the meaning to the words - the one who sees meaning in the spirits and translates them into words. And you do not have to have a Bible to see this, you can go outside and see it - you can be still and see it - it is what we are and why Jesus made so many parables. We are the parables to our spirits. Every creature is translating their idea / awareness [of love / the spirit] into their body, and it was made that way because that is what bodies are: the language of the soul, the image of love; the image of God; the godhead bodily; the words I AM to their meaning...

before you knew what the number 1 was you saw only a shape, but once you understood its meaning, that is what you then saw, and is the same as when you read these words - you do not see shapes you see my awareness (what I see in my spirit); and it is that same principle that Jesus was telling Phillip, and it is the same principle that carries over into everything - the body is the image to its meaning - the image of what you desire: love.

Now, are you, or are you not, possessed by Jesus? If you are, and you follow him, you're a Christian, right? When he is in you, you translate his spirit, you see his spirit / hear the voice, and you gain the faith / the seed / the awareness, that you are supposed to follow, right? Is that not what it means to have Jesus as your head and to be a child of God? Or is it to be taken a metaphor?

Does anyone understand?

OKay now back to the topic, and not that I'm a Mormon, but who do Mormons say is their head? And where should it lead you to have Jesus as your head, if not to Father? What is the point in taking Jesus in, if not to find the understanding of Father?

And I probably made some of you upset for not posting a spoiler alert, so sorry for that.

[Guest shiloh357]

To understand what Jesus was telling Phillip, think of Jesus as these words and Father as the understanding and awareness to the words - the meaning to the words - the one who sees meaning in the spirits and translates them into words. And you do not have to have a Bible to see this, you can go outside and see it - you can be still and see it - it is what we are and why Jesus made so many parables. We are the parables to our spirits. Every creature is translating their idea / awareness [of love / the spirit] into their body, and it was made that way because that is what bodies are: the language of the soul, the image of love; the image of God; the godhead bodily; the words I AM to their meaning...

 

Yeah, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.  Your view if really "out there" and is not based on a solid understanding of Scripture.

[Guest]

Jesus answered them, "This is God's work: to believe in the one whom he has sent." John 6:29 (NIV) That is what it takes to be saved.

[rag4aCrown]

wow... who knows another mans heart? when one has been baptized with the Holy Ghost ye shall know all things because the Spirit leads and guides us into all truth. Ye shall know them by their fruits for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. amen

[another_poster]

Very insightful!!

Liturgical Christians have creeds they will say which is their profession of faith. And I was on the Alliance Church wiki page and they had a faith statement. So I was curious what folks here thought.

I personally like the creeds, it's clear and concise as to what a Christian believes.

I agree the creeds are good but they do not define essential doctrine. They have doctrine that is not essential in them. Well at least for me. Please don't jump to the conclusion many do that I am saying the creeds are not correct. That is not what I am saying but just that they are not a list of essential beliefs.

 

Essential beliefs are recognising the need of a saviour and accepting Jesus as your lord and saviour and that he is the Son of God. My mind has just gone blank on the others that I would normally list but that is only one or two more points. Essential doctrine can be counted on one hand basically.

[Guest Judas Machabeus]

Very insightful!!

Liturgical Christians have creeds they will say which is their profession of faith. And I was on the Alliance Church wiki page and they had a faith statement. So I was curious what folks here thought.

I personally like the creeds, it's clear and concise as to what a Christian believes.

I agree the creeds are good but they do not define essential doctrine. They have doctrine that is not essential in them. Well at least for me. Please don't jump to the conclusion many do that I am saying the creeds are not correct. That is not what I am saying but just that they are not a list of essential beliefs.

Essential beliefs are recognising the need of a saviour and accepting Jesus as your lord and saviour and that he is the Son of God. My mind has just gone blank on the others that I would normally list but that is only one or two more points. Essential doctrine can be counted on one hand basically.

I know what you mean about the creeds. Lutherans and Anglicans believe in the communion of saints (not the same way Catholics do) but I don't think an Evangelical would ever make that claim. And I don't believe that would make or exclude someone from being Christian.

I hear a lot of emphasis being placed on having a relationship with Christ. Not sure what that means because it's such a personal statement. To have a relationship with Christ is going to mean different things to different people.

For me I think the top three are:

Belief in the trinity

Believing that Jesus died so that our sins can be forgiven and was raised from the dead and is body and soul in heaven.

Being Baptized.

[Guest Teditis]

My top 3 would be:

1) Believing and confessing Jesus as Lord and Savior.

2) see #1

3) see #1

[Guest Judas Machabeus]

My top 3 would be:

1) Believing and confessing Jesus as Lord and Savior.

2) see #1

3) see #1

So if someone believed that Jesus didn't really raise from the dead, or die on the cross than they can be considered Christian as long as they believe and confess Jesus is Lord and Saviour?

There was a heresy in the early Church that believed that Jesus's death on the cross was just an allusion.

[Guest Judas Machabeus]

A thought dawned on me just as I was hitting the post button.

For me, I have a personal relationship with Jesus. Not because of an alter call or sinners prayer. But because of what I believe. My relationship with Jesus is a result, the fruit perhaps of what I believe. Take away what I believe, and I would not have a relationship with Jesus.

Maybe I'm just speaking semantics on this point. But I get the impression that believing in things like the Trinity or the resurrection are unimportant as long as you have "a relationship with Christ"