Islam: The Most Violent Religion In the World, But Let's Keep Call

[Sam Adams]

Oak wood:

You are leaving me only the option to believe you or to believe people I served with in a war zone and have known for 25 years.

This is not a hard choice at all. These are good people who have no desire to take over the country or kill all infidels. They just want to live the American dream like the rest of us here. They want their kids to be safe and happy. They want to be able to go to Wild Wings and watch the Super Bowl without fear of being harassed.

The attitudes in this thread do not allow for those things to happen.

[Guest shiloh357]

Islam cannot be accurately measured by looking at  those who may only be nominally Muslim.   The west is naïve when it comes to Islam and the Islamists take full advantage of that.  In Islam, "non-violent"   doesn't equal "peaceful."

[OakWood]

Oak wood:

You are leaving me only the option to believe you or to believe people I served with in a war zone and have known for 25 years.

This is not a hard choice at all. These are good people who have no desire to take over the country or kill all infidels. They just want to live the American dream like the rest of us here. They want their kids to be safe and happy. They want to be able to go to Wild Wings and watch the Super Bowl without fear of being harassed.

The attitudes in this thread do not allow for those things to happen.

 

They may be good people. I am not asking you to not believe them, but as I have already said not all Muslims speak for Islam. If during World War 2 you had a very good German friend and he happened to be a supporter of the Nazi party, and he was a nice guy who you could trust, would you automatically dismiss off-hand the goals of the Nazi party?

Remember that Muslims are victims of Islam too. Many Muslims are deceived by their own religion. Nobody is expecting anybody to harass Muslims. Some have come to the West to escape Muslim tyranny and enjoy a free life. I too have Muslim friends and work colleagues. I have no bias. I originally studied Islam to find out why this 'religion of peace' was so badly misunderstood. I originally expected it to be peaceful, I didn't study it with the intention of attacking it.

[Sam Adams]

Justin:

Do the Muslims you serve with and have served with know how you feel about them?

[ayin jade]

Maybe the Muslims I know or have known personally were just bad Muslims because they are nothing like your view of all Muslims.

 

 

I think perhaps you do not know the muslims as well as you think they do.

 

I have muslim in laws. Outwardly they are nice people. However after 9/11 they started to show some cracks. They showed how they support terrrorist activity. I was pretty shocked but my husband and I have seen how when it comes down to it, they support terrorist activity. They are also actively involved in trying to change this country to support muslim domination. That I have seen first hand. 

[JustinM]

First off, in the military there are only 2 types of people.  Texans and Yankees.  All other categories and classifications just aren't relevant to me.  I don't keep a running demographic count of all the variations of the human species I encounter during the performance of my duties.

 

This conversation isn't about me or my service.  We are debating whether or not Islam is the most violent religion in the world.  According to most people, it is, hands down.

 

No other religion has a violent orthodoxy like islam does.  No other religious doctrine advocates plundering, raping and murdering your neighbors, whether they share your beliefs or not.  No other religion, has, as its prophet, a marauding caravan raider and rapist that spread his own orthodoxy by the sword throughout the entire middle east.

 

Muslims try to model themselves after Muhamed.  Christians try to model themselves after Christ.  Christianity wasn't spread by the sword by Christ or His disciples.  Anyone that tried to do that, was not following Christianity.  Morally equating Christianity and Islam is blasphemous as a Christian.  Remember the 1st Commandment?  As a Christian, there is no such thing as an "academic" discussion about this.  You either believe that YHWH is our one and only Creator and that Jesus was Him in the flesh who died to reconcile us with Him, or you don't.

[Sam Adams]

Ayin:

Having Muslim in-laws means you have a Muslim (or ex-Muslim) spouse, is that correct?

[ncn]

Ayin:

Having Muslim in-laws means you have a Muslim (or ex-Muslim) spouse, is that correct?

 

definition of an in Law  =  a relative by marriage.

[Will M]

Wow.

 

Why so much hostility towards each other?

This is not good friends. If it is causing such things, perhaps it is not a good topic to dicuss.

We are supposed to be loving not doing this kind of stuff.

I am withdrawing from here.

bless you folks

-Will

[ayin jade]

Ayin:

Having Muslim in-laws means you have a Muslim (or ex-Muslim) spouse, is that correct?

 

I have a close relative who married pakistani muslims who live in the us.