Sevenseas Posted February 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2015 Sometimes I read a thread and ................................................................ just look for the exit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut- Posted February 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 39 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,673 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 7,358 Days Won: 67 Joined: 04/22/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2015 Sometimes I read a thread and ................................................................ just look for the exit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted February 9, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2015 I am quite convinced that the world is warming is occuring probablydue to human agency, although not at the rate that some are predicting. Meterorology and climatology are a hobby of mine. The Northeastern US where I live is expericing an especially severe winter by historical standards,, However I have no doubt that global tmperatures are rising. However year to year changes for any given region fluctuate. There are however many evengelical's probably because of close connections with the Republican Party that believe that global warming is a myth They spin gobal warming adherents as leftwing, nature worshiping New Agers. I have read the science. I have looked at the news. I have checked it out. I do not think this is man caused. Not when you look at the more distant past and seen the changes in climate. I am not affiliated with the republican party either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky Posted February 10, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,602 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 291 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/24/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1986 Share Posted February 10, 2015 When you reject the authority of Scripture, you reject any claim that it has over your life. So true, Shiloh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submission Posted February 25, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 287 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 259 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) I am a Charismatic Christian by he way. The trends I referred to have been underway for a long time (by this I mean at least a few hundred years) but have recently increased in momentum. I recommend the book The Great Evangelical Recession by John Dickerson, published by Baker Books. The US remains more religious than Europe, but many Christians are nominal and follow a compromised faith. Christianity and its values have greatly diminished as a force in the US and this is even more the case in Europe and those who hold to traditional evangelical values are becoming increasingly marginalized. It will become increasingly more difficult to function in society and even in some cases maintain employment without a willingness to compromise basic Christian values. Edited February 25, 2015 by submission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestormx Posted February 25, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,113 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 442 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/06/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/17/1975 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The Satanic and New Age conspiracies some evangelical Christians perceive are chimeras. I don't comment here much anymore, but you have caught my interest with this statement above. Would you please go into more detail as to what you are saying in regards to the above statement. Firestormx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted February 25, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 733 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,017 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/09/1966 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The Satanic and New Age conspiracies some evangelical Christians perceive are chimeras. The Left Behind series, the idea that climate change theory is inspired by left wing New Age beliefs, the belief by some that there is an intelligentsia that subscribes to New Age philosophy are all aspects of this. What is on the rise in the West is atheism and an increase in people with no religious affiliation and closely associated with this is humanism. Atheism, naturalism and materialism underpin Western thought and its ideas have difused into contemporary Christianity. Pentecostal/ Charismatc Christianity has experienced dynamic growth in Latin America, Sub-Saharan Africa and parts of Asia while many Euuropean churches have become large ornate sepulchers attended by the aged. Any of the ideas expressed can be commented on. It did not seem to fit clearly into any category so I chose General Discussion. I suppose it could be moved to Worthy Opinions although presumably my comments may provoke some discussion.. I'm not a fan of your approach. What I see are your ideas and beliefs, expressed as facts without a specific purpose other than to set yourself up as the authority on these things and to "provoke." (Proverbs 26:12) You started a thread, stating your opinions and then basically sat back waiting either for fiery darts or to be told you're right. 1 Corinthians 8:1 reminds us that knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. It comes across to me as a spirit of division. You don't state what your purpose, goal or aim is for this thread. It's basically, "Here are my opinions. Say whatever you want, I'm ready for it." (Illustrated especially in the parts of your comments that I've put in bold face.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submission Posted February 28, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 287 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 259 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Firestirmix, Sorry for the delay but I have been busy. What I mean to say is that there is a growing indifference to the things of God as well as an underlying atheism which are growing in the West and that this trend has accelerated. If you are strongly coneected to a church many of your relationships may be church focused and you may not be as aware of these trends. The general acceptance of cohabitation, premarital relationships and homosexaulity as acceptable alternative lifestyles, the increasing, profanity and crudity on television are all evidence of changing mores. This trend is more evident in Europe, especially in certain areas of Europe then in the US.. Our society has become Post-Christian, the culture having become increasingly diverse with Biblicial beliefs becoming one of the many possibilities in a marketplace of ideas to choose from. I certainly do believe in Satan and the demonic as a very real force and have commented on this subject previously in this forum. I have had some direct experience in the past in this area. Although there are certainly people out there who hold New Age beliefs, follow Eastern infuenced philosophies or the occult I believe that their presence and influence in Western society have been exaggerated by some Christians. Their influence may grow greater at a later time as fashions change in what people believe. In the youth culture of the 60's-70's there was a great deal of interest in Eastern metaphysics (Transcendental Meditation, Alan Watts, Baba Rom Dass, Carlos Castaneda, etc). I used some strong imagery concering the declining influence of the Christian Church to emphasize the seriousness and depth of these changes. I also believe that this erosion in Christian beliefs and values is Satanically directed and inspired. Again, I rcommend the book The Great Evangelical Recession by John S Dickerson (2013) by Baker Books which discusses these trends in the US, with considerbale supporting documentation. The book, ebook is readily available at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, etc. The situation in Europe is even more dire. When I speak of largely vacant churches attended by elderly people I am not exagerating especially in respect to Roman Catholic and mainline denomination churches in some European countries. Edited February 28, 2015 by submission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submission Posted March 2, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 287 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 259 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Let me also add in case my intent is misiterpreted that I know through direct experience that that demonic possesion/ oppression are very real and that the occult and eastern religion/ new age are gateways to demonic infestation and attack. They are not to be trifled with. Supernatural phenomena and demonic activity are not restricted to Africa and Asia and the expereinces of missionaries in far flung areas of the globe but occur in the West as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestormx Posted March 2, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,113 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 442 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/06/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/17/1975 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Firestormx, Sorry for the delay but I have been busy. What I mean to say is that there is a growing indifference to the things of God as well as an underlying atheism which are growing in the West and that this trend has accelerated. Thank you for the response and the clarity as to what you were saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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