The Punishment of Israel Continues

[1x1is1]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193175

 

Thanks other one....... now I have the information.  I imagine that they have more advanced thermal nuclear devices hydrogen bombs.  Probably some neutron types as well. 

 

I heard years ago that they also have developed a "Sampson Option" which is kind of like a doomsday defense (remember the movie "Fail Safe"?).  It is a second strike capability, so even if Israel is hit first, it can still retaliate and launch Jericho 3 missiles to all muslim nations within 5,000km.  The only problem with that is........ muslim leaders are willing to make that trade off, as long as Israel is annihilated.  

[Guest shiloh357]

Yes, Israel can hit every Arab nation with nuclear missiles.   You are correct about the Samson option.   If it gets to the point that Israel is overwhelmed and cannot defend themselves and faces annihilation, they will send a few nukes into each Arab nation and particularly the capitals of those nations.   if the arabs try to wipe Israel out, they will pay a heavy, heavy price.  I don't think it will come to that, though.   Arab armies are manned with cowards.   They are big and brave when they are fighting unarmed women and children, but they cowards when faced with real military might.   That's why they use human shields.  When someone uses another human as a shield, you know that you are fighting someone without either courage or honor.

[ayin jade]

I dont think it will come to that because the Lord will not permit israel to be wiped out. The bible tells us that.

[OakWood]

Yes, Israel can hit every Arab nation with nuclear missiles.   You are correct about the Samson option.   If it gets to the point that Israel is overwhelmed and cannot defend themselves and faces annihilation, they will send a few nukes into each Arab nation and particularly the capitals of those nations.   if the arabs try to wipe Israel out, they will pay a heavy, heavy price.  I don't think it will come to that, though.   Arab armies are manned with cowards.   They are big and brave when they are fighting unarmed women and children, but they cowards when faced with real military might.   That's why they use human shields.  When someone uses another human as a shield, you know that you are fighting someone without either courage or honor.

 

Yes, they are cowards but they also have an apocalyptic view of the World, especially Iran. They are not afraid to make 'martyrs' of themselves.

[1x1is1]

Every one is right in here in one way or another.  Iran does act cowardly, and are not very effective fighters one on one.  Look at the Persian gulf war between Iraq & Iran.  It lasted 8 years and ended in a stale mate.  And yes, their apocalyptic view will play into the end times, but our Lord will protect Israel as He promised. 

 

Oh yeah, Iran didn't get any better since that war either.  Look at their needing our air support to take a town defended by less than 1,000 isis creeps.  They are supposedly leading the Iraqi army with their feared republican guard, big deal, the isis guys ARE willing to martyr themselves, so Iran withdraws and needs our assistance.  Cowards.

[PinkPaws]

The Obama administration is sliding rapidly down a slippery slope that's headed to disaster if they continue to damage relations with Israel. Obama may think he's getting back at Israel, but in reality, he's shaking his fist at the God of Israel. That could never end well for anyone or any country.

[JustinM]

Hi Littlelambseativy, maybe I should have named the topic "The President's Punishment of Israel Continues".  I wasn't trying to start a discussion as to whether God was punishing Israel or not.

 

I actually believe the opposite.  The creation of the nation of Israel last century is proof that God is blessing them and that their punishment is almost over.

[Bible2]

ayin jade said in post 13:

 

I dont think it will come to that because the Lord will not permit israel to be wiped out. The bible tells us that.

 

Are you thinking of Amos 9:15?

 

For some people believe Amos 9:15 applies to the reestablishment of Israel in 1948 AD. But Amos 9:15 could refer to what will happen only at Jesus' never-fulfilled 2nd coming (Isaiah 9:7, Amos 9:11). For Amos 9:14-15 was spoken before the taking of the northern kingdom of Israel into captivity (Amos 8:14, Amos 5:27) by the Assyrians in 722 BC. And so Amos 9:14-15 was spoken before the southern kingdom of Judah was taken into captivity by the Babylonians in 586 BC. But Amos 9:14-15 didn't apply to the post-Babylonian-Captivity restoration of the Jews to their land in 538 BC, for that restoration was subsequently destroyed by a Roman-empire army in 70 AD. So Amos 9:14-15 doesn't necessarily apply to the subsequent restoration of the Jews to their land in 1948 AD either. This restoration could be destroyed by the Baathists in a future war (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17 the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"), at the start of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24. Jesus will restore the Davidic kingdom of Israel (Luke 1:32b-33, Isaiah 9:7, Amos 9:11) at his 2nd coming (Acts 1:6-7, Acts 3:20-21), which will occur immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:2 to 20:6; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8).

 

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Matthew 24:34 could mean the temporal generation which would see the 1948 AD reestablishment of Israel, which could be symbolized by the rebudding of the fig tree (Matthew 24:32-34; cf. Matthew 21:19,43, Hosea 9:10, Joel 1:6-7, Luke 13:6-9), won't pass, i.e. won't die off completely, until the future tribulation and 2nd coming of Matthew 24 and Revelation chapters 6 to 19 are fulfilled. A temporal generation may not pass until 70 or 80 years (Psalms 90:10), or 120 years (Genesis 6:3).

 

This doesn't require that the 2nd coming will occur right before, like one year before, that generation will pass: i.e. 69, or 79, or 119 years after 1948: in 2017, 2027, or 2067. And if the tribulation which will immediately precede the 2nd coming and rapture (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6) will last 7 years (Daniel 9:27), the tribulation's first year didn't have to be in 2011, and won't have to be in 2021 or 2061, but could be in a future year (e.g. 2020) earlier than 2021.

 

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The rebudding of the fig tree (Matthew 24:32) can refer to the 1948 reestablishment of Israel, just as Jesus' cursing of the literal, fruitless fig tree (Matthew 21:19) foreshadowed his curse on the part of Old Covenant Israel which rejected him (Matthew 21:43), for a fig tree can represent Israel (Hosea 9:10, Joel 1:6-7, Luke 13:6-9). And the Israel which was reestablished in 1948 is the same Old Covenant Israel which Jesus cursed at his first coming. For it still rejects Jesus and still considers itself to be under the Old Covenant. This Israel merely "putting forth leaves" again (Matthew 24:32) in 1948 was nothing more than a restoration to what the fig tree in Matthew 21:19,43 had been before it was cursed by Jesus and then destroyed in 70 AD: a tree with leaves, but without any fruit. And the unbelieving, Old Covenant Israel which was reestablished in 1948 may never bear fruit. For it could be destroyed before Jesus' 2nd coming, during a future war, by a Baathist army, just as it had been destroyed in 70 AD by a Roman-empire army.

 

But Jesus' kingdom is still called "Israel" (John 1:49, John 12:13-15, John 19:19, Luke 22:30). And at Jesus' 2nd coming, he will sit on the earthly throne of David (Luke 1:32-33, Isaiah 9:7), and restore the kingdom to Israel (Acts 1:6-7, Acts 3:20-21). Jesus is, in his humanity, the son of David (Matthew 1:1, Matthew 21:15-16, Romans 1:3), of the house of David (Luke 1:69). So at Jesus' 2nd coming, he will restore the tabernacle, the house, of David (Isaiah 16:5, Amos 9:11) to its royal glory (2 Samuel 5:12), which it had lost (2 Kings 17:21a). And Jesus will fulfill the prophecy and prayer of 2 Samuel 7:16-29. And he will bring salvation to all the still-living, unbelieving elect Jews of the house of David. For they (along with all other still-living, unbelieving elect Jews) will come into faith in him when they see him at his 2nd coming (Zechariah 12:10-14, Zechariah 13:1,6, Romans 11:26-31). And so they will all become part of the church at that time, for now there are no believers outside of the church (Ephesians 4:4-6).

 

After Jesus' 2nd coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:3, Zechariah 14:3-5) will occur the millennium (Revelation 20:4-6, Zechariah 14:8-21), during which time the Gentile nations will come to seek the returned Jesus ruling the whole earth (Zechariah 8:22, Zechariah 14:9, Psalms 72:8-11) on the restored throne of David (Isaiah 9:7) in the earthly Jerusalem (Isaiah 2:1-4, Zechariah 14:8-11,16-19). And the physically resurrected church will reign on the earth with Jesus during the millennium (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29). For the church is Israel (Romans 11:1,17,24, Ephesians 2:12,19, Galatians 3:29, Revelation 21:9,12; 1 Peter 2:9-10).

[Guest shiloh357]

We are witnessing the beginning of the fulfillment of Amos 9:15.

 

Matthew 24 is not about the 2nd coming...