OakWood Posted May 19, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted May 20, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2015 Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 20, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2015 Oak I disagree.It sounds to me like Frank Turek is saying that we go to hell because we are sinners not because a person does not believe in Jesus Christ.I think we are all sinners.We sin everyday and we do not even realize that we do.We ask forgiveness of these sins daily and we are covered under the blood of Jesus Christ on the Cross. I believe that a person goes to hell because they do not believe in Jesus Christ John 3:16. 10 sins that often slip by as “OK” in our daily life: 1. Holding grudges 2. Justifying wrong attitudes 3. Putting your desires first (before God) 4. Feeling annoyed over the success of others 5. Getting hurt easily and reacting out of the hurt 6. Underpaying (taking advantage of others’ work) 7. Skimping on the work you are being paid to do 8. Criticizing and finding fault — secretly or outwardly 9. Focusing on the cares of the world — meaning putting your full attention and trust in the “things” of the world, like money, power, possessions, etc. When we put our full focus on them and allow them to define us, we lose focus of who we are in Christ. This doesn’t mean not caring about what happens in the world. 10. Gossiping or speaking unkindly of those not present “Sin” is any thought, word, or action that is contrary to the character or law of God. We all sin (Romans 3:23), and even what we consider good deeds are often tainted by selfish motives or pride (Isaiah 64:6). Left to ourselves, it is impossible to please God or to be completely free from sin (Romans 3:10;Ecclesiastes 7:10). Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/do-Christians-sin.html#ixzz3aj2eEK00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 20, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2015 The will of the unsaved is to reject salvation through Jesus Christ and remain in sin; God will honor that decision, and its consequences, for eternity.Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/eternity-hell-just.html#ixzz3aj5DM8IJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted May 21, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Oak I disagree.It sounds to me like Frank Turek is saying that we go to hell because we are sinners not because a person does not believe in Jesus Christ.I think we are all sinners.We sin everyday and we do not even realize that we do.We ask forgiveness of these sins daily and we are covered under the blood of Jesus Christ on the Cross. I believe that a person goes to hell because they do not believe in Jesus Christ John 3:16. 10 sins that often slip by as “OK” in our daily life: 1. Holding grudges 2. Justifying wrong attitudes 3. Putting your desires first (before God) 4. Feeling annoyed over the success of others 5. Getting hurt easily and reacting out of the hurt 6. Underpaying (taking advantage of others’ work) 7. Skimping on the work you are being paid to do 8. Criticizing and finding fault — secretly or outwardly 9. Focusing on the cares of the world — meaning putting your full attention and trust in the “things” of the world, like money, power, possessions, etc. When we put our full focus on them and allow them to define us, we lose focus of who we are in Christ. This doesn’t mean not caring about what happens in the world. 10. Gossiping or speaking unkindly of those not present “Sin” is any thought, word, or action that is contrary to the character or law of God. We all sin (Romans 3:23), and even what we consider good deeds are often tainted by selfish motives or pride (Isaiah 64:6). Left to ourselves, it is impossible to please God or to be completely free from sin (Romans 3:10;Ecclesiastes 7:10). Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/do-Christians-sin.html#ixzz3aj2eEK00 It's the same thing though Bo - he's just saying it in a different way. We go to Hell because we're sinners and not because we don't believe in Jesus. Not believing in Jesus doesn't send you to Hell, you're going to Hell anyway because you're a sinner. You deserve to go there because you're a sinner. But believing in Jesus stops you going to Hell. See what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 21, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2015 Oak I disagree.It sounds to me like Frank Turek is saying that we go to hell because we are sinners not because a person does not believe in Jesus Christ.I think we are all sinners.We sin everyday and we do not even realize that we do.We ask forgiveness of these sins daily and we are covered under the blood of Jesus Christ on the Cross. I believe that a person goes to hell because they do not believe in Jesus Christ John 3:16. 10 sins that often slip by as “OK” in our daily life: 1. Holding grudges 2. Justifying wrong attitudes 3. Putting your desires first (before God) 4. Feeling annoyed over the success of others 5. Getting hurt easily and reacting out of the hurt 6. Underpaying (taking advantage of others’ work) 7. Skimping on the work you are being paid to do 8. Criticizing and finding fault — secretly or outwardly 9. Focusing on the cares of the world — meaning putting your full attention and trust in the “things” of the world, like money, power, possessions, etc. When we put our full focus on them and allow them to define us, we lose focus of who we are in Christ. This doesn’t mean not caring about what happens in the world. 10. Gossiping or speaking unkindly of those not present “Sin” is any thought, word, or action that is contrary to the character or law of God. We all sin (Romans 3:23), and even what we consider good deeds are often tainted by selfish motives or pride (Isaiah 64:6). Left to ourselves, it is impossible to please God or to be completely free from sin (Romans 3:10;Ecclesiastes 7:10). Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/do-Christians-sin.html#ixzz3aj2eEK00 It's the same thing though Bo - he's just saying it in a different way. We go to Hell because we're sinners and not because we don't believe in Jesus. Not believing in Jesus doesn't send you to Hell, you're going to Hell anyway because you're a sinner. You deserve to go there because you're a sinner. But believing in Jesus stops you going to Hell. See what I mean? I do not believe that Oak.I believe that a person goes to hell only because they do not believe in Jesus Christ.We are all sinners.We all deserve hell but because we believe in Jesus Christ we repent of our sins and we are saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisyaz Posted May 21, 2015 Group: Seeker Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2015 Why do people deserve to go to hell? If hell is so bad and its about free will to choose god should you have the free will to choose not to be born because of the chance you could end up in hell? It sounds like not being born is a better option than hell yet there is no free will in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I am a sinner. But I am a regenerated, redeemed sinner. I am sinner because I have sin nature that has not been eradicated and won't be eradicated until Jesus returns and I receive my glorified body. A person goes to hell because they are an unredeemed, unregenerated sinner. That is how we are born, by default. Accepting Jesus doesn't mean I am no longer a sinner. It simply means I am not going to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted May 21, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2015 Why do people deserve to go to hell? If hell is so bad and its about free will to choose god should you have the free will to choose not to be born because of the chance you could end up in hell? It sounds like not being born is a better option than hell yet there is no free will in that. Life is a beautiful gift from God. What we do with it is our choice. The ability to have a choice is also a beautiful gift. Keep in mind, through His Love, He allows us to make our own choices to either follow Him or not. That choice determines if we spend eternity with God and all He has to offer or away from God and all He has to offer. This is our choice. To choose be with God, one also has to accept the means to accomplish this. There is only one way to live eternally with Him, not two or many. As His time draws nearer, more and more people no longer want to be held accountable for their actions. They try their best to find a cop-out, an excuse for why they should not be held accountable for their actions. They don't accept that there is one absolute truth in this life, that God is real and what He tells us will happen. Instead, they make up their own rules (free will) and expects God to accept and bow to their choices. It is so sad to see people like this, wanting what they think is the best in life, yet ignoring the only way to achieve this goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted May 21, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2015 How true we go to hell because we are sinners and the only way to avoid hell is to accept Jesus sacrifice...payment for our sin.unless we do we choose hell...God desires that NONE should perish ...the life boat is there the choice to get in is ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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