If the U.S went under Martial law...

[Guest shiloh357]

Bopeep,

 

People have explained that they have firearms for preparednesss' sake in case someone were to attempt to harm them or their families.   You have called that fear.

 

But it is the same sense of preparedness that leads us to buy homeowner/flood/fire insurance, car insurance.   It is the same sense of preparedness that leads us to buy health insurance if we get ill or need surgery.

 

So do you see preparedness as "fear"  when people buy insurance in case of property damage or health problems???  

 

It's a pretty easy question to answer.   Does trusting God mean that we don't make practical preparations for emergencies?

[The_Patriot21]

 

 

Satan does love fear.It makes God less powerful to us.

Who is afraid?

 

If you are not afraid then why carry a gun?

 

 

 

why do you keep saying that we carry a gun out of fear? we have been over this bopeep, we dont carry out of fear. So please stop accusing us of that, it is false.

[missmuffet]

Bopeep,

 

People have explained that they have firearms for preparednesss' sake in case someone were to attempt to harm them or their families.   You have called that fear.

 

But it is the same sense of preparedness that leads us to buy homeowner/flood/fire insurance, car insurance.   It is the same sense of preparedness that leads us to buy health insurance if we get ill or need surgery.

 

So do you see preparedness as "fear"  when people buy insurance in case of property damage or health problems???  

 

It's a pretty easy question to answer.   Does trusting God mean that we don't make practical preparations for emergencies?

I do not see it on the same level as buying insurance.We are required by law to have auto insurance.Some people look at life insurance as not having enough faith.

[missmuffet]

 

 

 

Satan does love fear.It makes God less powerful to us.

Who is afraid?

 

If you are not afraid then why carry a gun?

 

 

 

why do you keep saying that we carry a gun out of fear? we have been over this bopeep, we dont carry out of fear. So please stop accusing us of that, it is false.

 

Please do not get so defensive and please allow me to have my view.I am not accusing anyone.Just something to think about.Life is full of choices and apparently you have made your choice....so moving on.

[The_Patriot21]

you just did accuse us of being afraid, in the post you just quoted. You asked "if you are not afraid then why carry a gun?" after weve explained to you its not out of fear. You are accusing us of living in fear. I am telling you that is false. You want to have your view, thats fine, but don't get offended when we tell you were not. It doesn't work that way, if you want us to let you have your view, then don't make such accusations in the first place. If you make them, dont get mad when we tell you your wrong. I dont carry out of fear, and since I know why I carry, and you dont know what Im feeling, you have no real ability to know what I feel, or why I carry, other then what Ive told you-and ive told you multiple times that Its not out of fear, or lack of faith, and it is false for you to keep accusing us of doing so. And even if you dont list names, if you say "it shows a lack of faith to carry a gun" then its an insinuation that those who do lack faith, and yes were going to challenge you on that.

[Guest shiloh357]

Yeah, you are accusing us of living in fear and you are doing it in a passive aggressive way.    You keep responding with statements about fear.

 

Insurance is all about being prepared for an emergency.   So is having a firearm.  There are bad things and bad people out there.   And being prepared for it is not fear.   you want a one-sided conversation where you can call owning a gun as being fear based, but then get irritated if we challenge you.

[Matthew T.]

Proverbs 16:28

²⁸ A perverse man spreads strife, and a slanderer separates intimate friends.

 

Anyone see a certain pattern of tactic present here that is also present in a great many other topics by certain people? lol...

[The_Patriot21]

 

Proverbs 16:28

²⁸ A perverse man spreads strife, and a slanderer separates intimate friends.

 

Anyone see a certain pattern of tactic present here that is also present in a great many other topics by certain people? lol...

 

I think that perhaps this is being slightly passive aggressive to. the topic is firearms, not pick on people. My comments aimed at another member here was not out of malice, just to point out that she cant push her view the way she was and not expect people to disagree. this approach, while you didnt target anyone individually is far more as a passive aggressive attack. I would very much like this topic to get back on the subject, and not on the people therein, and I may have played a part of it, its getting out of hand.

[missmuffet]

 

 

Proverbs 16:28

²⁸ A perverse man spreads strife, and a slanderer separates intimate friends.

 

Anyone see a certain pattern of tactic present here that is also present in a great many other topics by certain people? lol...

 

I think that perhaps this is being slightly passive aggressive to. the topic is firearms, not pick on people. My comments aimed at another member here was not out of malice, just to point out that she cant push her view the way she was and not expect people to disagree. this approach, while you didnt target anyone individually is far more as a passive aggressive attack. I would very much like this topic to get back on the subject, and not on the people therein, and I may have played a part of it, its getting out of hand.

 

I respect that request pat.I will not comment any father of my opinion.

[Matthew T.]

 

 

Proverbs 16:28

²⁸ A perverse man spreads strife, and a slanderer separates intimate friends.

 

Anyone see a certain pattern of tactic present here that is also present in a great many other topics by certain people? lol...

 

I think that perhaps this is being slightly passive aggressive to. the topic is firearms, not pick on people. My comments aimed at another member here was not out of malice, just to point out that she cant push her view the way she was and not expect people to disagree. this approach, while you didnt target anyone individually is far more as a passive aggressive attack. I would very much like this topic to get back on the subject, and not on the people therein, and I may have played a part of it, its getting out of hand.

 

 

Awww Pat. It's not an attack. It's an observation. I can tell when conversations are intentionally booby-trapped. That's all I'm saying. It happens. Always has, always will. It's not only in  this thread. It's in many others started by the same person. That person's been in my iggy box since I joined because there's no profit in taking part in conversations such as the ones I speak. This paragraph I could copy and paste into a dozen other threads, all for the same reason, and mostly the same people. I mean you can see anything once...twice...more... But when it's regular pattern? It needs to be identified.

 

I'm not saying hate anyone. As a matter of fact there are hidden reasons for all this that people need real help with if they'd just get honest with themselves. And it's available to them. Plenty of people care. Me, for one. I just hate to see good topics wasted on tactical verbage. But that was just me.

 

I just get tired of seeing the verbal see-saw.