The sword of the Spirit

[Pamelasv]

I started with an niv. Tho now I do not like it, I do recall a specific time when the Holy Spirit drew me to it when I walked past it for me to read. I had no doubt, I KNEW it, it was very obvious. So I believe God can use probably most versions to speak to us.

[Ezra]

I like the nasb. I trust it the most because of what is said of by seasoned teachers. Actually, it is quite similar to the nkjv. But I will no way ever try to learn and understand the kjv. That would by an impediment to someone trying to learn scriptures. Plus, I heard it was all translated from Greek?

Pamela,

The KJV was not an impediment for over 300 years, but was made to look that way in order to promote modern bible versions.  It was indeed translated directly out of the Traditional Hebrew and Greek texts, and the goal of the translators was to make out of many English translations one which was exceptional.  No doubt it has some archaic words, but is really not that difficult to understand.  The real issue is the nature of the underlying texts for the modern versions. There are at least 1,500 changes which have doctrinal significance.

[Pamelasv]

I don't see how that one sentence omitted by the devil actually changed the meaning of what was being said. Maybe Satan CAN'T speak the complete Word.

[Ezra]

I don't see how that one sentence omitted by the devil actually changed the meaning of what was being said. Maybe Satan CAN'T speak the complete Word.

“to keep thee in all thy ways” is very significant in that it connects with the Scripture which says "In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths" (Prov 3:6). Had this been ignored, Jesus would have been out of the Father's will.  His path was to the Cross, not public acclaim.

 

Satan is far more intelligent than any human, and he could probably quote Scripture perfectly should be choose to do so. But he uses Scripture to deceive and confuse those not familiar with it.

[FreeinChrist]

While Satan is familiar with the Word, he is also a master manipulator and very capable of misapplying, misusing, or misinterpreting the Word deliberately (as he did in Eden as well as in the wilderness with Christ).  The lesson for Christians is:

1. Know the Word thorougly.

2. Understand the Word properly (rightly "divide" means interpret properly).

3. Apply the Word correctly.

4. Do not go beyond what Scripture reveals.

5. Use the most faithful translation, since Satan has also corrupted the Word.

 

We see in Eden how he corrupted the Word.  Today we see it in all the modern translations, bar none.  They are all founded on the corruptions of Scripture.  The KJB (and all Reformation Bibles) were founded on the true Bible texts.

 

 

 

Ezra are you a KJV only believer?

Absolutely.  And not because of some *tradition* but because of extensive and intensive research into the Bible version issue.  At the same time people like Peter Ruckman and Gail Ripplinger give a bad name to those who hold exclusively to the KJB. 

 

 

Amen Ezra, while i'm a KJVP, not KJVO, I agree with you I preferred to call myself more of TRO, although I do also love the Amplified Bible.  But my preference is Webster Bible, which is Noah Webster rewriting the KJV in more modern language in 1833.  But I still love my KJV.

 

[Ezra]

From the little that I have seen of Noah Webster's translation, he did not depart appreciably from the KJB. In fact, as you can see below where the KJB translators italicised words which were inserted by them, Webster bracketed them to distinguished Scripture from the helps of the translators.  That is known as faithful word-for-word translation (so that a reader may conveniently skip what is not Scripture if he or she so chooses). 

 

WEBSTER

Genesis 1:1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:2

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the

deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Genesis 1:3

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Genesis 1:4

And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the

darkness.

Genesis 1:5

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night: and the evening and

the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:6

And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the

waters from the waters.

Genesis 1:7

And God made the firmament; and divided the waters which [were] under the

firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.

 

AUTHORIZED VERSION (KJB)

¹ In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

² And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

³ And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

⁴ And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

⁵ And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

⁶ And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

⁷ And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

  

 What I would like to know is, could any child of 8 or 10 read this easily or not? The words are simple, yet powerful. The allegation that the KJB is "too difficult" for modern readers has little or no foundation. The Authorized Version is deemed an English language classic, and has in fact molded the language. Those who do not read it are depriving themselves of a linguistic and spiritual treasure.

[FreeinChrist]

But what I really love about Webster's Translation is using Passover instead of Easter in Acts 12:4. Don't get me wrong I love the KJV and see no fault in it, but never really care for the word Easter in that passage,

[FreeinChrist]

I also agree with you the KJV is rather easy to read.

[Pamelasv]

I don't see how that one sentence omitted by the devil actually changed the meaning of what was being said. Maybe Satan CAN'T speak the complete Word.

“to keep thee in all thy ways” is very significant in that it connects with the Scripture which says "In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths" (Prov 3:6). Had this been ignored, Jesus would have been out of the Father's will.  His path was to the Cross, not public acclaim.

 

Satan is far more intelligent than any human, and he could probably quote Scripture perfectly should be choose to do so. But he uses Scripture to deceive and confuse those not familiar with it.

I wonder if Satan spoke scripture accurately, he might slay himself.

[OakWood]

 

 

I don't see how that one sentence omitted by the devil actually changed the meaning of what was being said. Maybe Satan CAN'T speak the complete Word.

“to keep thee in all thy ways” is very significant in that it connects with the Scripture which says "In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths" (Prov 3:6). Had this been ignored, Jesus would have been out of the Father's will.  His path was to the Cross, not public acclaim.

 

Satan is far more intelligent than any human, and he could probably quote Scripture perfectly should be choose to do so. But he uses Scripture to deceive and confuse those not familiar with it.

I wonder if Satan spoke scripture accurately, he might slay himself.

 

 

I don't think so but I know what you mean.

He understands scripture perfectly well even though he despises it. There is a myth held by some that he has such an aversion to scripture that he cannot speak it accurately. Although it probably pains him to do so, he can speak it when he has to.

He prefers his own version though, where he twists it to further his own agenda.