1x1is1 Posted July 14, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,146 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 732 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/30/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1950 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Very bad deal as far as I can judge it. We still have an outside chance that congress will veto obama's veto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted July 15, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted July 15, 2015 Lets have a class 101 on exactly what is going on.A lesson for dummies on the nuclear deal. Okay, bopeep. I elect you as the teacher. I have to admit I haven't studied up on this interminable, boring, stupid, lopsided 'deal' at all. But we all should know what's going on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 15, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 15, 2015 Lets have a class 101 on exactly what is going on.A lesson for dummies on the nuclear deal. Okay, bopeep. I elect you as the teacher. I have to admit I haven't studied up on this interminable, boring, stupid, lopsided 'deal' at all. But we all should know what's going on wit it. What?That is why I was passively asking for help.I would like someone to hand over a little grace and give me a novice lesson.I have not studied it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger398 Posted July 15, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 562 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,074 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1966 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 the treaty is available to read Is it really. Where is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 15, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 15, 2015 the treaty is available to read That is not good enough.Morning and I would like someone who would be kind enough to explain what in the heck is going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 15, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,226 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,947 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted July 15, 2015 Listen to Glenn Beck... http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-framework-agreement-2015-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted July 15, 2015 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted July 15, 2015 My answer to the question is a question. Is hitting a grizzly bear over the head with a 2x4 a good thing? Is this deal a good thing or a bad thing. Doesn't the deal prevents the nuclear from being built in 10 yrs. No, it's not a good thing, tigger. The only thing it prevents is oversight by the rest of the world. I believe Obama/Kerry Inc. are completely clueless. Now the world will have to deal with the results of their pathetic negotiations. I don't believe Obama and Kerry are clueless at all, they just have a different agenda than they portray publicly. There is no good reason to believe that Iran doesn't already have the bomb, none at all: they have had plenty of time and help to build it. They've been exchanging nuclear and missile technology with North Korea for a long, long time. Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. Psalms 121:4 As I See It They Have Never Slowed Down Nor Will They Stop Until They (Try To~!) Drop The Bomb On The Children Of Israel And The Palestinians And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. Zechariah 14:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 15, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 15, 2015 Listen to Glenn Beck... http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-framework-agreement-2015-4 I thought Glenn Beck is Mormon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 15, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,226 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,947 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted July 15, 2015 Listen to Glenn Beck... http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-framework-agreement-2015-4 I thought Glenn Beck is Mormon. He is, but he has a good news show.... do you discount everything a Mormon says????/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolken Posted July 15, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 405 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 98 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/27/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 15, 2015 Opinions vary as to whether it is a "good" deal or a "bad" deal...and many reject it without any critical thought - perhaps the typical "Obama is the devil, hates America,etc" routine. What one should also consider are the alternatives. If for example the US rejects the deal, that does not obligate other countries to reject the deal. It would be quite possible for Iran to hold to the deal then any number of countries to simply lift sanctions and continue without US involvement. The deal eliminates 2/3 of Iran's centrifuges, the centrifuges left in place are not efficient for enrichment. There is 24/7 verification at the nuclear sites, and it is the military sites that require 14 day notice. If at any time Iran is legitimately suspected of "cheating" the sanctions can be put immediately back in place, and without Russia or China able to block such. After the "life" of this deal it is not that Iran could immediately proceed to create nuclear weapons but rather UN sanctions would come in place. It just seems that the deal should be given a fair hearing rather than the typical knee-jerk rejection without considering all sides and potential consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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