tigger398 Posted July 24, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 562 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,074 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1966 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Businesses are not obligated to the employees beyond the benefits and wages they promised when those people were hired. Raises or salary increases are at the discretion of the company. That's just the cold hard truth about business. If you do more than your paid to do, you will eventually get paid more for what you do. Maybe or get a promotion but don't hold your breath. You are also not owed anymore than was offered and agreed to. It seems that these days folks assume their employers owe them more than was agreed to. Anything can be taken too far. Surely you wouldn't include sweat shops here. Can you explain this one. The sweat shop thing don't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 24, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.69 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2015 Our leaders are out of touch. And they are not really leaders. Our problem is that we, as Americans, have set the bar really low in terms of who we are willing to accept as leaders and what we expect of them. I completely agree. Most have done so. What does that say about our electorial process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 24, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.69 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2015 Businesses are not obligated to the employees beyond the benefits and wages they promised when those people were hired. Raises or salary increases are at the discretion of the company. That's just the cold hard truth about business. If you do more than your paid to do, you will eventually get paid more for what you do. Maybe or get a promotion but don't hold your breath. You are also not owed anymore than was offered and agreed to. It seems that these days folks assume their employers owe them more than was agreed to. Anything can be taken too far. Surely you wouldn't include sweat shops here. Can you explain this one. The sweat shop thing don't make sense. Do you believe that a sweat shop employee is not owed more than was agreed to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Dawn Posted July 24, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 277 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/13/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/23/1967 Share Posted July 24, 2015 One factor in the "welfare as a lifestyle" issue that cannot be avoided is the practice of people who continue to have children even though they can't take care of the one's they already have. The reality is by denying welfare, we are often harming children. I don't know how to get around this problem short of taking Communist China action. lol While I agree, many welfare life-stylers are lazy, this doesn't apply to all of them. Some are genuinely discouraged, tired, hopeless, suffering from depression, etc... What they need is human support. They are weary...and many of them don't have the benefit of a church family...or even blood-related families...to help and encourage them. Instead they are put down, called burdens on society, and considered somehow less valuable than those who wear designer jeans and own a middle class home. These people are equal...they are created in God's image...and we need to love them, value them and respect them. Part of love is urging them to do what is right..."get a job"...but we also need to come along side and offer some help. Maybe teach them how to look for a job, how to build a resume, babysit while they job hunt, buy them an interview outfit...just be on their side...in their corner. We all need that sometimes...regardless of how well-groomed our lawns are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 24, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Businesses are not obligated to the employees beyond the benefits and wages they promised when those people were hired. Raises or salary increases are at the discretion of the company. That's just the cold hard truth about business. If you do more than your paid to do, you will eventually get paid more for what you do. Maybe or get a promotion but don't hold your breath. You are also not owed anymore than was offered and agreed to. It seems that these days folks assume their employers owe them more than was agreed to. Anything can be taken too far. Surely you wouldn't include sweat shops here. Can you explain this one. The sweat shop thing don't make sense. Do you believe that a sweat shop employee is not owed more than was agreed to? I was talking about things in the us. Not overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 24, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.69 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2015 Businesses are not obligated to the employees beyond the benefits and wages they promised when those people were hired. Raises or salary increases are at the discretion of the company. That's just the cold hard truth about business. If you do more than your paid to do, you will eventually get paid more for what you do. Maybe or get a promotion but don't hold your breath. You are also not owed anymore than was offered and agreed to. It seems that these days folks assume their employers owe them more than was agreed to. Anything can be taken too far. Surely you wouldn't include sweat shops here. Can you explain this one. The sweat shop thing don't make sense. Do you believe that a sweat shop employee is not owed more than was agreed to? I was talking about things in the us. Not overseas. So you do believe wages should be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 24, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,138 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2015 So you do believe wages should be fair. what do you consider a fair wage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 24, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Businesses are not obligated to the employees beyond the benefits and wages they promised when those people were hired. Raises or salary increases are at the discretion of the company. That's just the cold hard truth about business. If you do more than your paid to do, you will eventually get paid more for what you do. Maybe or get a promotion but don't hold your breath. You are also not owed anymore than was offered and agreed to. It seems that these days folks assume their employers owe them more than was agreed to. Anything can be taken too far. Surely you wouldn't include sweat shops here. Can you explain this one. The sweat shop thing don't make sense. Do you believe that a sweat shop employee is not owed more than was agreed to? I was talking about things in the us. Not overseas. So you do believe wages should be fair. Your view of whats fair and mine greatly differ. You think its fair to be more socialist and force employers to pay more to their employees despite agreed upon wages. I think that is theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted July 25, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2015 IT is just a vicious cycle that will only cause prices to increase, nullifying the very reason this was done. In the process, it will destroy the middle class. The rich are far above the wages of the two and will not be affected to the same degree. What this was designed to do will only create an opposite affect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 25, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.69 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2015 Businesses are not obligated to the employees beyond the benefits and wages they promised when those people were hired. Raises or salary increases are at the discretion of the company. That's just the cold hard truth about business. If you do more than your paid to do, you will eventually get paid more for what you do. Maybe or get a promotion but don't hold your breath. You are also not owed anymore than was offered and agreed to. It seems that these days folks assume their employers owe them more than was agreed to. Anything can be taken too far. Surely you wouldn't include sweat shops here. Can you explain this one. The sweat shop thing don't make sense. Do you believe that a sweat shop employee is not owed more than was agreed to? I was talking about things in the us. Not overseas. So you do believe wages should be fair. Your view of whats fair and mine greatly differ. You think its fair to be more socialist and force employers to pay more to their employees despite agreed upon wages. I think that is theft. How do you know what my view of fair is? You are assuming much my dear. And you avoided my statement. So I will ask you, putting aside exactly what a fair wage would look like, do you agree in principal that a laborer is entitled to a fair wage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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