Pre Great, Mid 70th Week, Post Believer's TRIB

[JohnD]

[missmuffet]

1) Rapture of the Church

2) 3 1/2 years tribulation

3) 3 1/2 years great tribulation(more intense)

4) The second coming of Christ

5) The 1000 years Millennium

[Omegaman 3.0]

1) Rapture of the Church

2) 3 1/2 years tribulation

3) 3 1/2 years great tribulation(more intense)

4) The second coming of Christ

5) The 1000 years Millennium

4 out of 5! Not too bad! Numbers 2 through 5 have biblical precidence, number one is an idea that many impose upon the scriptures. However, to be fair, just because something is not expressed in scripture, does not make it impossible, you you may be correct.

[missmuffet]

That is just what Scripture tells me.

[Omegaman 3.0]

That is just what Scripture tells me.

Really? It what words exactly, does it tell you this?

[missmuffet]

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

1 Corinthians 15:50-54

[Ezra]

"Tribulation of the Saints" should be replaced by "Tribulation of the Jews and Israel" which is "The Time of Jacob's Trouble".  Other than that, there are a lot of Christians who would like to dismiss Daniel's 70th week altogether.

[JohnD]

Nope. The Saints for the first half (note highlighted half in the number of months).

Revelation 13:5–10 (AV)

⁵And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

⁶And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

⁷And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

⁸And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

⁹If any man have an ear, let him hear.

¹⁰He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Read study the chart. The time of Jacob's Trouble is the last half.

[missmuffet]

Nope. The Saints for the first half (note highlighted half in the number of months).

Revelation 13:5–10 (AV)

⁵And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

⁶And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

⁷And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

⁸And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

⁹If any man have an ear, let him hear.

¹⁰He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Read study the chart. The time of Jacob's Trouble is the last half.

Yep,I agree with you.The last 31/2 years are really bad.The time of Jacob's Trouble.

 

[Ezra]

Which saints? We have the saints within the Church (already raptured), and we also have Tribulation Saints (who will all be beheaded -- Rev 20:4).