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are you claiming that your interpretation of Revelation is infallible?

 

:thumbsup:

 

Beloved,

 

Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near. Revelation 1:3 (NASB)

 

I Am Blessed

 

He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming quickly." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. Revelation 22:20 (NASB)

 

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Beloved, Any Baby Sister Who Puts The Words Of Men

 

See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. Colossians 2:8 (NASB)

 

Over The Word Of God

 

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John, who testified to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near. Revelation 1:1-3 (NASB)

 

This book contains an account of visions in symbolic and allegorical language borrowed extensively from the Old Testament, especially Ezekiel, Zechariah, and Daniel. Whether or not these visions were real experiences of the author or simply literary conventions employed by him is an open question. http://www.usccb.org/bible/scripture.cfm?bk=Revelation&ch

 

Is

 

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6 (NASB)

 

Sunk

 

“The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand. “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” John 3:35-36 (NASB)


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When we make ourselves the final arbiters of which parts of the Bible are to be interpreted literally we elevate ourselves above God.

 

That's what I've been saying bopeep.


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When we make ourselves the final arbiters of which parts of the Bible are to be interpreted literally we elevate ourselves above God.

 

That's what I've been saying bopeep.

 

I am saying it all should be taken literally.


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This is why I said that we are to use as little of our own interpretation as we can and simply take the words as they are, and as you said, let the Holy Spirit do the rest.  The Bible is not just any other historical book, God's word endures for all time, and will never pass away.  It is as relevant today as it was 1000 years ago, and God's Word is living, and life in itself.  God intended for us to understand His Word just as it is.  We do the complicating by adding our own theories and such, which is in itself grave error.  The Holy Spirit reveals the depths of meaning in His Word, which is why we can't just read it just the once, but again and again, to dig deeper into God's Word and truth, and be securely grounded therein.

 

Blessings.

 

 

That is an impossible task *Zion" for by definition all words must be interpreted by us so we are able to make any sense out of the markings we see on a page.

 

This is the way we are made.  We are always interpreting everything we read, everything we hear, everything around us.

 

It is how our mind makes sense of everything.

 

It is the way God made us.

 

 

And we interpret what we read, what we see, what we hear, etc by the lenses we have formed through our culture and our upbringing, and our experiences,  regardless of whether those filters allow us to see, or prevent us from seeing things as  they really are.

 

Yes but a person must not spiritualize the words of Scripture to give it the meaning that they want to hear.That is not the way God intended for the Bible to be read.You read the words and then your brain digests the words and you understand them.Pray and ask the Holy Spirit to give you knowledge to read those words the way God intended.You can not slaughter the Bible by giving it your own meaning.Satan loves that.

 

 

Do you not realize that your brain digests the words you read according to filters that can be wrong?

 

What happens to light when you pass it through a colored filter?  What do you see on the other end?  The light as it entered that filter?   or only what the filter would allow you to see?

 

 

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When we make ourselves the final arbiters of which parts of the Bible are to be interpreted literally we elevate ourselves above God.

 

That's what I've been saying bopeep.

 

I am saying it all should be taken literally.

 

 

 

Then why have you not yet cut off your hands and feet, or plucked out your eyes?

 

 

Matthew 18:8-9

 

If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.

And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.

 

 

Matthew 5:29-30

If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

 

 Mark 9:43

If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.


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When we make ourselves the final arbiters of which parts of the Bible are to be interpreted literally we elevate ourselves above God.

 

That's what I've been saying bopeep.

 

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Whether I Or All Men Be Liars, God Be True

 

For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. Romans 3:3-4


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Do you not realize that your brain digests the words you read....

according to filters that can be wrong....

 

~

 

Beloved

 

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Colossians 2:8

 

There Is

 

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160

 

No Doubt

 

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17


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When we make ourselves the final arbiters of which parts of the Bible are to be interpreted literally we elevate ourselves above God.

 

That's what I've been saying bopeep.

 

I am saying it all should be taken literally.

 

 

 

Then why have you not yet cut off your hands and feet, or plucked out your eyes?

 

 

Matthew 18:8-9

 

If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.

And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.

 

 

Matthew 5:29-30

If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

 

 Mark 9:43

If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

 

This is long but it is important

 

Question: "How can I recognize and understand biblical symbolism?"

Answer: The language of the Bible is rich with metaphor. The biblical writers used familiar, everyday objects to symbolize spiritual truth. Symbols are quite common in the poetic and prophetic portions of the Bible. By its very nature, poetry relies heavily on figurative language; when Solomon calls his bride “a lily among thorns” (Song of Solomon 2:2), he is using symbols to declare the desirability and uniqueness of the Shulamite. Prophecy, too, contains much figurative imagery. Isaiah often used trees and forests as symbols of strength (e.g., Isaiah 10:18-19;32:19). Daniel saw “a goat with a prominent horn between his eyes” who “came from the west . . . without touching the ground” (Daniel 8:5), and we interpret this as a kingdom (Greece) and its king (Alexander the Great) who speedily conquered the world.

Jesus’ teaching was full of symbolism. He presented Himself as a Shepherd, a Sower, a Bridegroom, a Door, a Cornerstone, a Vine, Light, Bread, and Water. He likened the kingdom of heaven to a wedding feast, a seed, a tree, a field, a net, a pearl, and yeast. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of other symbols in the Bible.

Note that a literal interpretation of the Bible allows for figurative language. Here’s a simple rule: if the literal meaning of a passage leads to obvious absurdity, but a figurative meaning yields clarity, then the passage is probably using symbols. For example, in Exodus 19:4, God tells Israel, “I carried you on eagles’ wings.” A literal reading of this statement would lead to absurdity—God did not use real eagles to airlift His people out of Egypt. The statement is obviously symbolic; God is emphasizing the speed and strength with which He delivered Israel. This leads to another rule of biblical interpretation: a symbol will have a non-symbolic meaning. In other words, there is something real (a real person, a real historical event, a real trait) behind every figure of speech.

Here are a few symbols used in the Bible:

Old Testament

Walk with God: To "walk" with someone is to live in fellowship and harmony with him. Since God can only live in a way that reflects His holy character, to "walk with God" is to live according the path He has laid out, to obey Him.

Genesis 5:226:9Deuteronomy 10:12Joshua 22:51 Kings 8:23Micah 6:8

Dust, stars, sand: The Bible often uses these metaphors to represent the number of descendants God promised to Abraham. This would include Abraham’s physical descendants (Jews and Arabs) as well as Abraham’s spiritualprogeny (those who live by faith, Galatians 3:7).

Genesis 13:1615:526:428:1432:12Exodus 32:13Isaiah 48:19Jeremiah 33:22Hebrews 11:12

Flowing with milk and honey: God often referred to Canaan as "a land flowing with milk and honey." An abundance of milk and honey was symbolic of lush, fertile farmland, plenty of water, and rich grass for dairy animals and flowers for bees. Milk and honey were two of the most prized foods in Old Testament times, and a land "flowing" with them would be very desirable.

Exodus 3:81713:533:3Leviticus 20:24Numbers 13:2714:816:1314Deuteronomy 6:311:926:915;27:331:20Josh. 5:6Song of Solomon 4:115:1Isaiah 7:22Jeremiah 11:532:22Ezekiel 20:615

Circumcised hearts: Physical circumcision was the sign of the covenant between God and His chosen people, the Jews. It was, of course, an external alteration. What God really wanted, though, was an internal alteration—aspiritual circumcision, as it were. To have one's heart circumcised was to fully identify with Him. It is not enough to obey His Word on the outside; we must be characterized by His Word on the inside.

Deuteronomy 10:1630:6Jeremiah 4:42:28-29

Cedars of Lebanon: In Israel, large trees were hard to come by and very valuable. The cedars in Lebanon grow up to 130 feet tall with trunks up to eight feet in diameter. They were valued for their resin, which Egyptians used in mummification, and wood, which was used to build ships. The cedars are used symbolically in the Bible to represent strength and stature or pride.

Judges 9:152 Kings 19:23Psalm 29:572:16104:16Song of Solomon 5:15Isaiah 2:1314:837:24Hosea 14:5-6Zechariah 11:1

Hearts of stone or flesh: A heart of stone is emblematic of a spiritually dead heart that cannot respond to God's grace. God promises to remove our heart of stone and replace it with a living, loving heart that can follow Him.

Ezekiel 11:1936:26

Ephraim and Judah: In the divided kingdom, the ten tribes in the north were many times collectively called “Ephraim” after the most prominent tribe living there. The tribes in the south were often referred to as “Judah” after the most prominent southern tribe. This particular figure of speech, in which a part is substituted for the whole, is called metonymy. 

Isaiah 7:9179:21

New Testament

Ramah and Rachel: Ramah was a small town about five miles from Jerusalem. Rachel was one of Jacob’s wives buried near Bethlehem (Genesis 35:19). Ramah mourning and Rachel weeping in the book of Jeremiah are symbols of the sadness experienced when Judah was conquered by Babylon and sent into exile. Matthew quotes Jeremiah and furthers the metaphor, applying it to Herod’s massacre of the babies in Bethlehem. Ramah becomes a symbol of Bethlehem, and Rachel becomes a symbol of the grieving mothers there.

Jeremiah 31:15Matthew 2:18

Shaking the dust off one’s feet: In New Testament times, a devout Jew would shake the dust off his feet when he left a Gentile city to symbolically cleanse himself of ungodly practices. Jesus told His disciples to do the same if a Jewish household or village rejected the message of the Messiah.

Matthew 10:14Mark 6:11Luke 9:5

Whitewashed tombs: A whitewashed tomb is a stone crypt that is clean and well kept on the outside but filled with bones and death. Jesus used this image as a symbol to represent hypocrites—religious people who do not follow God in their hearts.

Matthew 23:27Luke 11:44

Capstone: A capstone is one of the top stones on a wall. Metaphorically, it is the finishing touch or the crowning achievement. Jesus used this symbol of Himself.

Mark 12:101 Peter 2:6-7

Slave/servant of Christ: The New Testament writers use the idea of being a slave or servant of Christ to symbolize our responsibility to do the will of Christ and not be self-serving. It is sometimes juxtaposed with its alternative of being a slave to sin; a believer is set free from sin and is now led by the Spirit. An indentured servant, after fulfilling his obligation to his master, could volunteer to stay and serve his master for life—a picture of how we serve Christ willingly.

Romans 1:1Galatians 1:10Colossians 1:71 Timothy 4:6Titus 1:1James 1:12 Peter 1:1Jude 1:1Revelation 1:1

Animals

Serpent: Snakes are mentioned many times in the Bible, and never in a positive light. In Genesis and Revelation, the serpent symbolizes Satan. The serpent of Eden is described as crafty—an idea Jesus reiterates in Matthew 10. In Hebrew, the noun for “serpent” is related to the verb for “divining and fortune-telling.”

Genesis 3:11449:17Numbers 21:6Deuteronomy 32:33Job 26:13Psalm 58:491:13140:3Proverbs 23:32;30:19Isaiah 14:2965:25Matthew 10:1623:33Luke 10:19Revelation 12:9141520:2

Lion: Lions in the Bible can represent power. A lion devours prey and lies down without fear. The Bible compares God (Hosea 5:14), Jesus (Revelation 5:5), and even Satan (1 Peter 5:8) to a lion.

Genesis 49:9Numbers 23:2424:9Deuteronomy 33:20221 Chronicles 12:8Job 4:101110:1628:838:39;Psalm 10:991:13104:21Proverbs 19:12Ecclesiastes 9:4Isaiah 5:2911:67Jeremiah 2:15304:712:8;Ezekiel 1:1019:2319:6Daniel 7:42 Timothy 4:17Revelation 4:79:1710:3

Dog: Dogs in Bible times were not cherished family pets. They were mongrels who ran wild and scavenged. Jews often referred to Gentiles as "dogs"—not a complimentary epithet. Jesus' interaction with the Syro-Phoenician woman in Matthew 15 shows how He ministered to the "dogs" and the children, both.

Exodus 11:7Deuteronomy 23:181 Samuel 17:4324:142 Samuel 16:9Job 30:1Psalm 22:201659:668:23;Proverbs 26:1126:17Ecclesiastes 9:4Isaiah 56:11Jeremiah 15:3Matthew 7:615:27Philippians 3:2;Revelation 22:15

Sheep: Sheep are herd animals who are amazingly dependent on a shepherd for their well-being. And they are the animal most used by God to symbolize His followers. Jesus is the Good Shepherd, and we are the sheep who recognize His voice, follow Him, and rely on Him for our safety and provision.

Numbers 27:171 Kings 22:172 Chronicles 18:16Psalm 23:144:112249:1474:178:5295:7119:176;Isaiah 53:67Jeremiah 23:150:6Ezekiel 34:111234:17Matthew 9:3610:626:31John 10:111626

We interpret the Bible literally, but this this does not mean we ignore symbols and metaphorical language. God’s written communication to the world is a richly textured literary masterpiece and makes full use of the tools of language, including symbolism, metaphor, simile, and motif.

http://www.gotquestions.org/biblical-symbolism.html


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When we make ourselves the final arbiters of which parts of the Bible are to be interpreted literally we elevate ourselves above God.

 

That's what I've been saying bopeep.

 

I am saying it all should be taken literally.

 

 

 

Then why have you not yet cut off your hands and feet, or plucked out your eyes?

 

 

Matthew 18:8-9

 

If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.

And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.

 

 

Matthew 5:29-30

If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

 

 Mark 9:43

If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

 

This is long but it is important

 

Question: "How can I recognize and understand biblical symbolism?"

Answer: 
The language of the Bible is rich with metaphor. The biblical writers used familiar, everyday objects to symbolize spiritual truth. Symbols are quite common in the poetic and prophetic portions of the Bible. By its very nature, poetry relies heavily on figurative language; when Solomon calls his bride “a lily among thorns” (Song of Solomon 2:2), he is using symbols to declare the desirability and uniqueness of the Shulamite. Prophecy, too, contains much figurative imagery. Isaiah often used trees and forests as symbols of strength (e.g., Isaiah 10:18-19;32:19). Daniel saw “a goat with a prominent horn between his eyes” who “came from the west . . . without touching the ground” (Daniel 8:5), and we interpret this as a kingdom (Greece) and its king (Alexander the Great) who speedily conquered the world.

Jesus’ teaching was full of symbolism. He presented Himself as a Shepherd, a Sower, a Bridegroom, a Door, a Cornerstone, a Vine, Light, Bread, and Water. He likened the kingdom of heaven to a wedding feast, a seed, a tree, a field, a net, a pearl, and yeast. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of other symbols in the Bible.

Note that a literal interpretation of the Bible allows for figurative language. Here’s a simple rule: if the literal meaning of a passage leads to obvious absurdity, but a figurative meaning yields clarity, then the passage is probably using symbols. For example, in Exodus 19:4, God tells Israel, “I carried you on eagles’ wings.” A literal reading of this statement would lead to absurdity—God did not use real eagles to airlift His people out of Egypt. The statement is obviously symbolic; God is emphasizing the speed and strength with which He delivered Israel. This leads to another rule of biblical interpretation: a symbol will have a non-symbolic meaning. In other words, there is something real (a real person, a real historical event, a real trait) behind every figure of speech.

Here are a few symbols used in the Bible:

Old Testament

Walk with God: To "walk" with someone is to live in fellowship and harmony with him. Since God can only live in a way that reflects His holy character, to "walk with God" is to live according the path He has laid out, to obey Him.

Genesis 5:226:9Deuteronomy 10:12Joshua 22:51 Kings 8:23Micah 6:8

Dust, stars, sand: The Bible often uses these metaphors to represent the number of descendants God promised to Abraham. This would include Abraham’s physical descendants (Jews and Arabs) as well as Abraham’s spiritualprogeny (those who live by faith, Galatians 3:7).

Genesis 13:1615:526:428:1432:12Exodus 32:13Isaiah 48:19Jeremiah 33:22Hebrews 11:12

Flowing with milk and honey: God often referred to Canaan as "a land flowing with milk and honey." An abundance of milk and honey was symbolic of lush, fertile farmland, plenty of water, and rich grass for dairy animals and flowers for bees. Milk and honey were two of the most prized foods in Old Testament times, and a land "flowing" with them would be very desirable.

Exodus 3:81713:533:3Leviticus 20:24Numbers 13:2714:816:1314Deuteronomy 6:311:926:915;27:331:20Josh. 5:6Song of Solomon 4:115:1Isaiah 7:22Jeremiah 11:532:22Ezekiel 20:615

Circumcised hearts: Physical circumcision was the sign of the covenant between God and His chosen people, the Jews. It was, of course, an external alteration. What God really wanted, though, was an internal alteration—aspiritual circumcision, as it were. To have one's heart circumcised was to fully identify with Him. It is not enough to obey His Word on the outside; we must be characterized by His Word on the inside.

Deuteronomy 10:1630:6Jeremiah 4:42:28-29

Cedars of Lebanon: In Israel, large trees were hard to come by and very valuable. The cedars in Lebanon grow up to 130 feet tall with trunks up to eight feet in diameter. They were valued for their resin, which Egyptians used in mummification, and wood, which was used to build ships. The cedars are used symbolically in the Bible to represent strength and stature or pride.

Judges 9:152 Kings 19:23Psalm 29:572:16104:16Song of Solomon 5:15Isaiah 2:1314:837:24Hosea 14:5-6Zechariah 11:1

Hearts of stone or flesh: A heart of stone is emblematic of a spiritually dead heart that cannot respond to God's grace. God promises to remove our heart of stone and replace it with a living, loving heart that can follow Him.

Ezekiel 11:1936:26

Ephraim and Judah: In the divided kingdom, the ten tribes in the north were many times collectively called “Ephraim” after the most prominent tribe living there. The tribes in the south were often referred to as “Judah” after the most prominent southern tribe. This particular figure of speech, in which a part is substituted for the whole, is called metonymy. 

Isaiah 7:9179:21

New Testament

Ramah and Rachel: Ramah was a small town about five miles from Jerusalem. Rachel was one of Jacob’s wives buried near Bethlehem (Genesis 35:19). Ramah mourning and Rachel weeping in the book of Jeremiah are symbols of the sadness experienced when Judah was conquered by Babylon and sent into exile. Matthew quotes Jeremiah and furthers the metaphor, applying it to Herod’s massacre of the babies in Bethlehem. Ramah becomes a symbol of Bethlehem, and Rachel becomes a symbol of the grieving mothers there.

Jeremiah 31:15Matthew 2:18

Shaking the dust off one’s feet: In New Testament times, a devout Jew would shake the dust off his feet when he left a Gentile city to symbolically cleanse himself of ungodly practices. Jesus told His disciples to do the same if a Jewish household or village rejected the message of the Messiah.

Matthew 10:14Mark 6:11Luke 9:5

Whitewashed tombs: A whitewashed tomb is a stone crypt that is clean and well kept on the outside but filled with bones and death. Jesus used this image as a symbol to represent hypocrites—religious people who do not follow God in their hearts.

Matthew 23:27Luke 11:44

Capstone: A capstone is one of the top stones on a wall. Metaphorically, it is the finishing touch or the crowning achievement. Jesus used this symbol of Himself.

Mark 12:101 Peter 2:6-7

Slave/servant of Christ: The New Testament writers use the idea of being a slave or servant of Christ to symbolize our responsibility to do the will of Christ and not be self-serving. It is sometimes juxtaposed with its alternative of being a slave to sin; a believer is set free from sin and is now led by the Spirit. An indentured servant, after fulfilling his obligation to his master, could volunteer to stay and serve his master for life—a picture of how we serve Christ willingly.

Romans 1:1Galatians 1:10Colossians 1:71 Timothy 4:6Titus 1:1James 1:12 Peter 1:1Jude 1:1Revelation 1:1

Animals

Serpent: Snakes are mentioned many times in the Bible, and never in a positive light. In Genesis and Revelation, the serpent symbolizes Satan. The serpent of Eden is described as crafty—an idea Jesus reiterates in Matthew 10. In Hebrew, the noun for “serpent” is related to the verb for “divining and fortune-telling.”

Genesis 3:11449:17Numbers 21:6Deuteronomy 32:33Job 26:13Psalm 58:491:13140:3Proverbs 23:32;30:19Isaiah 14:2965:25Matthew 10:1623:33Luke 10:19Revelation 12:9141520:2

Lion: Lions in the Bible can represent power. A lion devours prey and lies down without fear. The Bible compares God (Hosea 5:14), Jesus (Revelation 5:5), and even Satan (1 Peter 5:8) to a lion.

Genesis 49:9Numbers 23:2424:9Deuteronomy 33:20221 Chronicles 12:8Job 4:101110:1628:838:39;Psalm 10:991:13104:21Proverbs 19:12Ecclesiastes 9:4Isaiah 5:2911:67Jeremiah 2:15304:712:8;Ezekiel 1:1019:2319:6Daniel 7:42 Timothy 4:17Revelation 4:79:1710:3

Dog: Dogs in Bible times were not cherished family pets. They were mongrels who ran wild and scavenged. Jews often referred to Gentiles as "dogs"—not a complimentary epithet. Jesus' interaction with the Syro-Phoenician woman in Matthew 15 shows how He ministered to the "dogs" and the children, both.

Exodus 11:7Deuteronomy 23:181 Samuel 17:4324:142 Samuel 16:9Job 30:1Psalm 22:201659:668:23;Proverbs 26:1126:17Ecclesiastes 9:4Isaiah 56:11Jeremiah 15:3Matthew 7:615:27Philippians 3:2;Revelation 22:15

Sheep: Sheep are herd animals who are amazingly dependent on a shepherd for their well-being. And they are the animal most used by God to symbolize His followers. Jesus is the Good Shepherd, and we are the sheep who recognize His voice, follow Him, and rely on Him for our safety and provision.

Numbers 27:171 Kings 22:172 Chronicles 18:16Psalm 23:144:112249:1474:178:5295:7119:176;Isaiah 53:67Jeremiah 23:150:6Ezekiel 34:111234:17Matthew 9:3610:626:31John 10:111626

We interpret the Bible literally, but this this does not mean we ignore symbols and metaphorical language. God’s written communication to the world is a richly textured literary masterpiece and makes full use of the tools of language, including symbolism, metaphor, simile, and motif.

http://www.gotquestions.org/biblical-symbolism.html

 

 

 

Bopeep you just said

 

 

 

 

I am saying it all should be taken literally.

 

That means there is NO symbolism.  NO metaphor.

 

 

Now you reverse yourself and say there is symbolism, which means your statement that "all should be taken literally"   is false.

 

 

Literal and symbolic are mutually exclusive terms.

 

 

If it is ALL to be take literally as you claimed, then that means nothing is symbolic.

 

 

So which is it?


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Bopeep you just said

 

 

 

 

I am saying it all should be taken literally.

 

That means there is no symbolism.

 

 

Now you reverse yourself and say there is symbolism, which means your statement that "all should be taken literally"   is false.

 

 

Literal and symbolic are mutually exclusive terms.

 

 

If it is ALL to be take literally as you claimed, then that means nothing is symbolic.

 

 

So which is it?

There is symbolism please see post # 67

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