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What is the Kingdom to you?

 

The Great Assembly, the Ekklesia, the Church, the spiritual house / holy nation built of living stones by the Chief Corner Stone which the builders rejected....


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We are a kingdom of priests.

 

Right now.

 

We do not know it or believe it or shirk our responsibilities from the traditions of men which hamstrung the Church...

 

The Kingdom is here... now... has been since the death of the Testator of the new testament (covenant). It is finished.

 

Hebrews 9:16–17 (AV)

16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

1 Peter 2:3–9 (AV)

3If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

 

Revelation 1:6 (AV)

6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

Revelation 5:10 (AV)

10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

 

Harkening back to:

 

Exodus 19:6 (AV)

6And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

 

It was altered by Exodus 32 from which the tribal clergy / laity distinction came. From then onward only the tribe of Levi was priestly. That was true under the Old Covenant. There is no clergy / laity division in the New Covenant. We have been sold a bill of goods through the traditions of men which the traditions of men according to Matthew 16:13-23 comes from Satan. The entire passage is a contrast between the things of God and the things of man (which got Peter called Satan by the LORD when he followed the things of man).


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Shalom, Ezra.

 

 

The Bible didn’t speak of the Kingdom being within us! The ONLY place that is found in Scripture is Luke 17:21.

Of course it did .  Those are the plain words of Christ.  And that should suffice (include verse 20).  The Kingdom of God is within those who have experienced the New Birth, who have both seen and entered into the Kingdom of God spiritually (Jn 3:1-13).

 

 

Sorry, bro’, but that’s not right! Yeshua` was NOT talking to people "who experienced the New Birth, who have both seen and entered into the Kingdom of God spiritually,” telling them that “the Kingdom of God was within them”; he was talking to the PHARISEES who rejected Him as their King! Are you meshuggah (crazy)?


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What is the Kingdom to you?

The Great Assembly, the Ekklesia, the Church, the spiritual house / holy nation built of living stones by the Chief Corner Stone which the builders rejected....

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Same for me,

his kingdom or his nation started from the women he met after his resuraction, then Peter, the rest of the disciples , the others around them, from Jerusalem and then just like the circles when you throw a peple in the water, it expanded from Jerusalem to Samaritan, in the regions around, in Egypt, Ethiopia, Syria, Greece, Rome, Persia, India, and reach the whole wold, just like he said, to his disciples, go yet in the whole world, beginning from Jerusalem, we are his nation his Kingtom and his is our king.

Should also say that before the women, the people, the captives and prisoners who believe in him, when he preach the Gospel to them in the depth of the earth, if it is acceptable to you.


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B'shalom, Retrobyter.

 

He was speaking as the Moshiakh filled with Ruakh hakodesh soon to be the firstborn from the dead of many brethren who would also be filled with Ruakh hakodesh.

 

And there are the kingdom passages I mentioned in my previous post today.


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The great assembly started further back than that.

 

Hebrews 11 (AV)

1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

2For by it the elders obtained a good report.

3Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

4By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

5By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

7By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

8By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.

9By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

10For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

11Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised.

12Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.

13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

14For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.

15And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.

16But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

17By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

18Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

19Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

20By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.

21By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff.

22By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones.

23By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king’s commandment.

24By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter;

25Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;

26Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.

27By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

28Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.

29By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.

30By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.

31By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.

32And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:

33Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,

34Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.

35Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

36And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:

37They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;

38(Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.

39And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

40God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.


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Shalom, JohnD.

 

We are a kingdom of priests.

 

Right now.

 

We do not know it or believe it or shirk our responsibilities from the traditions of men which hamstrung the Church...

 

The Kingdom is here... now... has been since the death of the Testator of the new testament (covenant). It is finished.

 

Hebrews 9:16–17 (AV)

16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

1 Peter 2:3–9 (AV)

3If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

 

Revelation 1:6 (AV)

6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

Revelation 5:10 (AV)

10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

 

Harkening back to:

 

Exodus 19:6 (AV)

6And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

 

It was altered by Exodus 32 from which the tribal clergy / laity distinction came. From then onward only the tribe of Levi was priestly. That was true under the Old Covenant. There is no clergy / laity division in the New Covenant. We have been sold a bill of goods through the traditions of men which the traditions of men according to Matthew 16:13-23 comes from Satan. The entire passage is a contrast between the things of God and the things of man (which got Peter called Satan by the LORD when he followed the things of man).

 

NONSENSE! You are ignoring the prophecies about the Messiah and the children of Israel! The “church” has NOT replaced “Israel” AT ALL! If anything, the “church” is a SUBSET of Israel as the Goyim (Gentiles) and bneey Yisra’eel (children of Israel) who were grafted into the “Olive Tree” of God’s Kingdom once ruled by David the King. The King SHALL return and shall establish His Kingdom LITERALLY in the Land of Yisra’el! We can consider ourselves His subjects ahead of time, but His Kingdom is NOT HERE, YET! Being chosen to be a “kingdom of priests and an awesome nation” doesn’t mean that the Kingdom is already here. It just means that we are DESTINED to BECOME such a kingdom! HOWEVER, the Kingdom will come with the coming of the King!


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Oh the mysteries of it all, how wonderful!


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"Kingdom of God is within you" by  Leo Tolstoy is an excellent book on this topic!

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Shalom, JohnD.

 

We are a kingdom of priests.

 

Right now.

 

We do not know it or believe it or shirk our responsibilities from the traditions of men which hamstrung the Church...

 

The Kingdom is here... now... has been since the death of the Testator of the new testament (covenant). It is finished.

 

Hebrews 9:16–17 (AV)

16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

1 Peter 2:3–9 (AV)

3If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

 

Revelation 1:6 (AV)

6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

Revelation 5:10 (AV)

10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

 

Harkening back to:

 

Exodus 19:6 (AV)

6And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

 

It was altered by Exodus 32 from which the tribal clergy / laity distinction came. From then onward only the tribe of Levi was priestly. That was true under the Old Covenant. There is no clergy / laity division in the New Covenant. We have been sold a bill of goods through the traditions of men which the traditions of men according to Matthew 16:13-23 comes from Satan. The entire passage is a contrast between the things of God and the things of man (which got Peter called Satan by the LORD when he followed the things of man).

 

NONSENSE! You are ignoring the prophecies about the Messiah and the children of Israel! The “church” has NOT replaced “Israel” AT ALL! If anything, the “church” is a SUBSET of Israel as the Goyim (Gentiles) and bneey Yisra’eel (children of Israel) who were grafted into the “Olive Tree” of God’s Kingdom once ruled by David the King. The King SHALL return and shall establish His Kingdom LITERALLY in the Land of Yisra’el! We can consider ourselves His subjects ahead of time, but His Kingdom is NOT HERE, YET! Being chosen to be a “kingdom of priests and an awesome nation” doesn’t mean that the Kingdom is already here. It just means that we are DESTINED to BECOME such a kingdom! HOWEVER, the Kingdom will come with the coming of the King!

I never said the Church replaced anyone. 

Spirit Israel is what "the Church" joined. The Kingdom is Spirit Israel.

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