Jump to content
IGNORED

Praying in Public--What would you do?


Proof

Recommended Posts


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  11
  • Topic Count:  320
  • Topics Per Day:  0.04
  • Content Count:  6,830
  • Content Per Day:  0.84
  • Reputation:   3,570
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  02/16/2002
  • Status:  Offline

Answers to questions like these are in the Scriptures. All we need do is look them up. Personally, I pray in private;

Matthew 6:6, But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

If eating out, I can still pray in private, telling God at the end of our conversation that I or we will be goingout for a meal and I thank Him now for the food he has so abundantly supplied to me and mine! Its that simple.

Please don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with public prayer. I just don't make a shew of it for no valid reason.

The Lord himself both prayed "in the mountain alone," in the night alone, and in public in the presence of his disciples. We have records of many prayers offered by the apostles in public assemblies in the Scriptures. "Thy closet" may mean any secret place. Peter's closet was on the house-top; the Savior's on a mountain alone.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  11
  • Topic Count:  320
  • Topics Per Day:  0.04
  • Content Count:  6,830
  • Content Per Day:  0.84
  • Reputation:   3,570
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  02/16/2002
  • Status:  Offline

Heres a short response to professed atheists who make a show of denying the existence of God. Say to them;

 

If you are a professed Atheist, I ask you the question: Do you believe in aliens?

If they say, why yes! Go on with, Could not God be an alien? In fact He most certainly is an alien. The dictionary defines the word “alien” as: “coming from or existing outside the earth or its atmosphere.” God is not of this world. The Bible teaches that God created the universe, which means that His presence transcends this universe.

It is contradictory for any Atheist to profess a belief in the existence of alien life (or at least the possibility thereof); while simultaneously denying the existence of God.

To all atheists, If you believe that aliens may exist, then you certainly must concede that one of those aliens may be God.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

  • Group:  Advanced Member
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  9
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  334
  • Content Per Day:  0.10
  • Reputation:   312
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  08/03/2015
  • Status:  Offline

In this clip, from ABC's What Would You Do, a family is praying before their meal in a restaurant when an Atheist speaks up and complains....

 

http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=YLKLYWNX

a lot of atheists are looking to cause trouble . They are being unrealistic and intolerant. They do not practice what they reach. If the atheist wants to be tolerated thenhe or she needs to be tolerant of those who have a faith and express it in different ways. Their use of the legal system to bully schools and others into taking down religious artifacts shows their one-sided thinking and hypocrisy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  11
  • Topic Count:  320
  • Topics Per Day:  0.04
  • Content Count:  6,830
  • Content Per Day:  0.84
  • Reputation:   3,570
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  02/16/2002
  • Status:  Offline

There's no such thing as an atheist according to the Bible. Romans 1:20-21, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.”

Atheism is defined by Webster's New World Dictionary as, "1) the belief that there is no God, or denial that God or gods exist.2) godlessness." An atheist, therefore, is a person who believes that there is no God. But what does the Bible say?

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Worthy Ministers
  • Followers:  35
  • Topic Count:  100
  • Topics Per Day:  0.02
  • Content Count:  41,248
  • Content Per Day:  7.98
  • Reputation:   21,496
  • Days Won:  76
  • Joined:  03/13/2010
  • Status:  Offline
  • Birthday:  07/27/1957

There's no such thing as an atheist according to the Bible. Romans 1:20-21, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.”

Atheism is defined by Webster's New World Dictionary as, "1) the belief that there is no God, or denial that God or gods exist.2) godlessness." An atheist, therefore, is a person who believes that there is no God. But what does the Bible say?

That is exactly it... yet because they love the lie more than the truth they will persist in the lie even though they know differently!  Love, Steven

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  11
  • Topic Count:  320
  • Topics Per Day:  0.04
  • Content Count:  6,830
  • Content Per Day:  0.84
  • Reputation:   3,570
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  02/16/2002
  • Status:  Offline

There's no such thing as an atheist according to the Bible. Romans 1:20-21, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.”

Atheism is defined by Webster's New World Dictionary as, "1) the belief that there is no God, or denial that God or gods exist.2) godlessness." An atheist, therefore, is a person who believes that there is no God. But what does the Bible say?

That is exactly it... yet because they love the lie more than the truth they will persist in the lie even though they know differently!  Love, Steven

Well said mate

hitnail.jpg

 

Psalm 14:1, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
   

Psalm 53:1, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good"

 

They know there is a God, a divine being, its just that believing in Him, it would interfere in their way of life and sin!

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  6
  • Topic Count:  58
  • Topics Per Day:  0.02
  • Content Count:  5,457
  • Content Per Day:  1.69
  • Reputation:   4,220
  • Days Won:  37
  • Joined:  07/01/2015
  • Status:  Offline

Don't push it sister :45:

Sooo...that is the response I get? :mellow:

I wanna know who stole the real bopeep :o

afd632b66a4a7e2f431aa8b2320dee8b.jpg

rflol

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

  • Group:  Non-Conformist Theology
  • Followers:  2
  • Topic Count:  48
  • Topics Per Day:  0.02
  • Content Count:  2,139
  • Content Per Day:  0.69
  • Reputation:   796
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  10/20/2015
  • Status:  Offline

The true meaning of separation of church and state was meant to protect the churches from the government. Liberals have taken this out of context and pushed it to mean the church isn't allowed to do anything outside of the church. This was put in by Thomas Jefferson whom was a very devout Christian.

Glad you brought that up,the below article explains the meaning.....

http://www.allabouthistory.org/separation-of-church-and-state.htm

Excerpt

Separation Of Church And State

Separation of Church and State - The Metaphor and the Constitution
"Separation of church and state" is a common metaphor that is well recognized. Equally well recognized is the metaphorical meaning of the church staying out of the state's business and the state staying out of the church's business. Because of the very common usage of the "separation of church and state phrase," most people incorrectly think the phrase is in the constitution. The phrase "wall of separation between the church and the state" was originally coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists on January 1, 1802. His purpose in this letter was to assuage the fears of the Danbury, Connecticut Baptists, and so he told them that this wall had been erected to protect them. The metaphor was used exclusively to keep the state out of the church's business, not to keep the church out of the state's business.

The constitution states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Both the free exercise clause and the establishment clause place restrictions on the government concerning laws they pass or interfering with religion. No restrictions are placed on religions except perhaps that a religious denomination cannot become the state religion.

.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Would recommend reading the entire article,it's not that long.............

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  8
  • Topic Count:  59
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  4,402
  • Content Per Day:  0.99
  • Reputation:   2,154
  • Days Won:  28
  • Joined:  02/10/2012
  • Status:  Offline
  • Birthday:  04/26/1971

The true meaning of separation of church and state was meant to protect the churches from the government. Liberals have taken this out of context and pushed it to mean the church isn't allowed to do anything outside of the church. This was put in by Thomas Jefferson whom was a very devout Christian.

Glad you brought that up,the below article explains the meaning.....

http://www.allabouthistory.org/separation-of-church-and-state.htm

Excerpt

Separation Of Church And State

Separation of Church and State - The Metaphor and the Constitution
"Separation of church and state" is a common metaphor that is well recognized. Equally well recognized is the metaphorical meaning of the church staying out of the state's business and the state staying out of the church's business. Because of the very common usage of the "separation of church and state phrase," most people incorrectly think the phrase is in the constitution. The phrase "wall of separation between the church and the state" was originally coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists on January 1, 1802. His purpose in this letter was to assuage the fears of the Danbury, Connecticut Baptists, and so he told them that this wall had been erected to protect them. The metaphor was used exclusively to keep the state out of the church's business, not to keep the church out of the state's business.

The constitution states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Both the free exercise clause and the establishment clause place restrictions on the government concerning laws they pass or interfering with religion. No restrictions are placed on religions except perhaps that a religious denomination cannot become the state religion.

.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Would recommend reading the entire article,it's not that long.............

Thank You for posting this as I have more and more been seeing how the structure of the American government and God's government line up.  The elected officials may hail from different religious bodies but government is not a tyranny against the free exercise of one conscious underatanding of religious beliefs toward God.  Amen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

  • Group:  Graduated to Heaven
  • Followers:  57
  • Topic Count:  1,546
  • Topics Per Day:  0.21
  • Content Count:  10,320
  • Content Per Day:  1.41
  • Reputation:   12,323
  • Days Won:  9
  • Joined:  04/15/2004
  • Status:  Offline
  • Birthday:  11/05/1951

On 9/19/2015 at 3:57 PM, Proof said:

The true meaning of separation of church and state was meant to protect the churches from the government. Liberals have taken this out of context and pushed it to mean the church isn't allowed to do anything outside of the church. This was put in by Thomas Jefferson whom was a very devout Christian.

Jefferson . . . I have never heard him accused of being a devout Christian before. He was a deist - he believed in a creator, but mostly felt that the creator did not interact much with His universe.

Jeffeson wrote a book called The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth, often referred to as the Jefferson Bible. One of the noteworthy things about this 'Bible', is that all mentions Jesus' miracles are omitted, passages indicating Jesus divinity are left out, and even the resurrection is omitted.

Does that sound like a devout Christian?

Not sure what I would do in that circumstance, my guess is that I would say something to this effect to that woman:

Maam, you have every right to be offended, and you have the right to be offensive also, just as you are now being. Try to have a little patience, your ordeal will be over in just a moment. Try not to be too offended by the thought, that these people will probably be praying for you. Don't worry, if there is no God, it will have no effect, and will just be harmless, but if they are correct in what they believe, you might just end up thanking them in eternity.

Then later, I would probable reflect on the events, and regret having given her another reason to despise Christians, and regretting that I did not take the opportunity, to not only present to gospel to her, but to all in earshot. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...