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I remember the scene from the movie, Passion of the Christ whereby Jesus is being led by his captors to a courtyard looking place, where eventually Peter would deny Him three times. Remember this scene? And what stands out to me, and always has from that movie, is that Jesus doesn't say a whole lot to anyone. He doesn't rebuke anyone. He rather just 'takes it,' and stands there in absolute silence.

When King Herod in another scene in the movie, mocks Him and tries to engage Jesus in dialogue, Jesus stays silent. I'm reminded of this, because it stands to reason that maybe we should do more of that, than fight with people online (or offline), to prove points. It is especially sad when we as believers, feel the need to put others down to drive a point home. We're all human, we all lose our tempers here and there, but we should be mindful of how Jesus might react if He saw two Christians fighting 'over' Him. Fighting as to who understands Scripture...better. This was the very thing the Pharisees did, and Jesus didn't approve.

Anyway, just my ramblings for this fine Monday. :unsure: Something to think about for us all.

In the Bible, Jesus spoke to Caiaphas, to Pilate, but not to Herod.    Jesus' silence toward Herod was not a good thing.  It shows just how evil Herod was.    When you get to the place where God will not speak to you, you have crossed the line. 

I agree that Herod was evil.  But Jesus spoke to Satan who is evil incarnate.  By your "logic" Herod was more evil than Satan?  I think you're assumption lacks Biblical support, at least how it's presented.

I don't see a problem with it.   I don't think your gap theory stuff has any biblical support either. But your lack of biblcial support for that doesn't stop you.    Besides you're missing the point.  Jesus spoke redemptively to the High Priest and to Pilate.   But he would not speak that way to Herod.  There comes a point when God will stop dealing with a person, there are those who prove themselves irretrievably wicked.


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I remember the scene from the movie, Passion of the Christ whereby Jesus is being led by his captors to a courtyard looking place, where eventually Peter would deny Him three times. Remember this scene? And what stands out to me, and always has from that movie, is that Jesus doesn't say a whole lot to anyone. He doesn't rebuke anyone. He rather just 'takes it,' and stands there in absolute silence.

When King Herod in another scene in the movie, mocks Him and tries to engage Jesus in dialogue, Jesus stays silent. I'm reminded of this, because it stands to reason that maybe we should do more of that, than fight with people online (or offline), to prove points. It is especially sad when we as believers, feel the need to put others down to drive a point home. We're all human, we all lose our tempers here and there, but we should be mindful of how Jesus might react if He saw two Christians fighting 'over' Him. Fighting as to who understands Scripture...better. This was the very thing the Pharisees did, and Jesus didn't approve.

Anyway, just my ramblings for this fine Monday. :unsure: Something to think about for us all.

In the Bible, Jesus spoke to Caiaphas, to Pilate, but not to Herod.    Jesus' silence toward Herod was not a good thing.  It shows just how evil Herod was.    When you get to the place where God will not speak to you, you have crossed the line. 

I agree that Herod was evil.  But Jesus spoke to Satan who is evil incarnate.  By your "logic" Herod was more evil than Satan?  I think you're assumption lacks Biblical support, at least how it's presented.

I don't see a problem with it.   I don't think your gap theory stuff has any biblical support either. But your lack of biblcial support for that doesn't stop you.    Besides you're missing the point.  Jesus spoke redemptively to the High Priest and to Pilate.   But he would not speak that way to Herod.  There comes a point when God will stop dealing with a person, there are those who prove themselves irretrievably wicked.

Whatever.


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Slow to speak has done wonders for me.

Just the opposite for me.  I am slow to speak and frequently get interrupted in the middle of a sentence.  It's gotten so I really don't like talking to people.  I am an introvert with an extrovert wife and two dogs to support as a Mechanical Design Engineer.  Being an introvert is hard enough.  But being a slow talker (not slow thinker) puts me at a decided disadvantage.  So I like to write, whenever possible.

I've always found people who are slow to speak, often say very thoughtful and insightful things, because they don't just blurt out whatever is the first thing that pops into their heads. lol It can be frustrating, but it's a good quality, imo. For that it's worth. 


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Jesus' silence imo is to be something we should follow when you are at a loss for words with someone, especially if witnessing...when you get the sense that the person is not interested in really hearing and learning, but rather scoffing and mocking...then, silence is the right response.


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Slow to speak has done wonders for me.

Just the opposite for me.  I am slow to speak and frequently get interrupted in the middle of a sentence.  It's gotten so I really don't like talking to people.  I am an introvert with an extrovert wife and two dogs to support as a Mechanical Design Engineer.  Being an introvert is hard enough.  But being a slow talker (not slow thinker) puts me at a decided disadvantage.  So I like to write, whenever possible.

wheever I am having a conversation with someone who talks over the top of me cutting me off I bring it to their attention and ask them to stop.  I usually say "please don't do that" and if they continue I ask again.  They usually say "do what?" Most are unaware of what they are doing.  Then I will say "please do not cut me off when I am speaking."  

To the introverted and fearful I say,  The decrease in my fear of people is equal to the increase of my fear of God.  Reliance upon God is what helps a person outgrow fear.  It is very difficult for humans to trust God.  So much so that God twisted the tongues of the nations so that they would seek him.


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He was oppressed , and He was afflicted, yet He opened not His mouth; He is brought as a lamb before the slaughter; and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so He opened not His mouth.   Isaiah 53:7   Yea, I would say Jesus was pretty silent, although as Shiloh mentioned, He did speak some.

Solomon gave some good advise for all of us in Ecclesiastes:   1)  Keep thy foot when thou goest, to the house of God; and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools; for they consider not that they do evil.   2)  Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy word be few.   Ecclesiastes 5:1-2


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Slow to speak has done wonders for me.

Just the opposite for me.  I am slow to speak and frequently get interrupted in the middle of a sentence.  It's gotten so I really don't like talking to people.  I am an introvert with an extrovert wife and two dogs to support as a Mechanical Design Engineer.  Being an introvert is hard enough.  But being a slow talker (not slow thinker) puts me at a decided disadvantage.  So I like to write, whenever possible.

I've always found people who are slow to speak, often say very thoughtful and insightful things, because they don't just blurt out whatever is the first thing that pops into their heads. lol It can be frustrating, but it's a good quality, imo. For that it's worth. 

Thank you.  You're very kind.


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Slow to speak has done wonders for me.

Just the opposite for me.  I am slow to speak and frequently get interrupted in the middle of a sentence.  It's gotten so I really don't like talking to people.  I am an introvert with an extrovert wife and two dogs to support as a Mechanical Design Engineer.  Being an introvert is hard enough.  But being a slow talker (not slow thinker) puts me at a decided disadvantage.  So I like to write, whenever possible.

wheever I am having a conversation with someone who talks over the top of me cutting me off I bring it to their attention and ask them to stop.  I usually say "please don't do that" and if they continue I ask again.  They usually say "do what?" Most are unaware of what they are doing.  Then I will say "please do not cut me off when I am speaking."  

To the introverted and fearful I say,  The decrease in my fear of people is equal to the increase of my fear of God.  Reliance upon God is what helps a person outgrow fear.  It is very difficult for humans to trust God.  So much so that God twisted the tongues of the nations so that they would seek him.

Some people take offense at being interrupted, forgetting they interrupted me.  I just stop talking.  Once in a great while someone will ask me to continue and apologize for interrupting me.  That feels nice but it doesn't happen very often.  I know exactly why and how I developed into an introvert.  It's not something that can be changed without divine help. 


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I am not silent enough.

 

Proverbs 17:28 Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace;
When he shuts his lips, he is considered perceptive.


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Slow to speak has done wonders for me.

Just the opposite for me.  I am slow to speak and frequently get interrupted in the middle of a sentence.  It's gotten so I really don't like talking to people.  I am an introvert with an extrovert wife and two dogs to support as a Mechanical Design Engineer.  Being an introvert is hard enough.  But being a slow talker (not slow thinker) puts me at a decided disadvantage.  So I like to write, whenever possible.

wheever I am having a conversation with someone who talks over the top of me cutting me off I bring it to their attention and ask them to stop.  I usually say "please don't do that" and if they continue I ask again.  They usually say "do what?" Most are unaware of what they are doing.  Then I will say "please do not cut me off when I am speaking."  

To the introverted and fearful I say,  The decrease in my fear of people is equal to the increase of my fear of God.  Reliance upon God is what helps a person outgrow fear.  It is very difficult for humans to trust God.  So much so that God twisted the tongues of the nations so that they would seek him.

Some people take offense at being interrupted, forgetting they interrupted me.  I just stop talking.  Once in a great while someone will ask me to continue and apologize for interrupting me.  That feels nice but it doesn't happen very often.  I know exactly why and how I developed into an introvert.  It's not something that can be changed without divine help. 

i really lik those who say "i don't mean to interrupt but...", I stop them by asking "then why are you?".

Yes, divine help!  For without him we can do nothing. :) 

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