Creation and an Old Earth - One Possibility

[Vendtre]

1 hour ago, enoob57 said:

Who decides ... that would be obvious "God"

So till we are all standing in front of Him, we will not know for sure.  Which is why I would be careful not to be so dismissive of other views as you tend to be

[enoob57]

3 minutes ago, Vendtre said:

So till we are all standing in front of Him, we will not know for sure.  Which is why I would be careful not to be so dismissive of other views as you tend to be

I am foundation-ed upon the Word of God hermeneutically confident in thus it says... I wait in other places where this cannot be so for
now and all in all I am waiting upon My Lord and Savior to take me further! What I have said here is the proper interpretation of Genesis
chapter 1 for I have said what it has said without add from other sources and taking away to fit my own beliefs- I am ready for the
judgement of God in this    Love, Steven

[Vendtre]

41 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

I am foundation-ed upon the Word of God hermeneutically confident in thus it says... I wait in other places where this cannot be so for
now and all in all I am waiting upon My Lord and Savior to take me further! What I have said here is the proper interpretation of Genesis
chapter 1 for I have said what it has said without add from other sources and taking away to fit my own beliefs- I am ready for the
judgement of God in this    Love, Steven

But is it your place to stand in judgement of others on this?  Or is that God's job?

[enoob57]

9 minutes ago, Vendtre said:

But is it your place to stand in judgement of others on this?  Or is that God's job?

God is The One Who will stand in judgment I am only to proclaim what God has said....
The only heart that can accept God's Word as 'IS' -> the one that denies self and follows
it's leading:

Mt 16:24-27

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
KJV

It is not complicated you have been born a sinner and in a place of sin... if you have turned to Jesus in repentance and opened your door
to His reality-> then it is required to empty your vessel of all that you have began in and replace it with His Word. It will be suffering and
trial to do so ... but that consideration itself is of flesh and that passes away!  Love, Steven

 

[Vendtre]

I really hate this passive aggressive "if you don't agree with me you are not saved" stunt so many Christians try to pull. 

It only serves to drive people away from Christ, not towards him

[simplejeff]

There's many places in His Word He explains simply.

"Yahweh created everything simple; man came up with many devices".((errors; distractions; false doctrines))

For instance:  one of man's false doctrines is 'we are in the 8th day'; developed to support a multitude((many many lifetimes)) of false doctrine and pagan practices))

This is patently a false doctrine, never ever accept it believe it.   Likewise, the source of it - don't accept anything from a bad source.  

Instead, Rely and Trust the Father in heaven for all knowledge needed,  in  line with all His Word.

2 hours ago, enoob57 said:

Who decides ... that would be obvious "God"

Exactly.  Simple, eh?  Yahweh doesn't Tell someone in china something contradictory to anything He Tells someone in Jerusalem.   If anything contradictory/ in error/  comes up , it is from man  or lower.  MOST of the world church(es) are taught contradictory.  Always.

1 hour ago, Vendtre said:

So till we are all standing in front of Him, we will not know for sure. ....

Depends on who you listen to, Yahweh or men/mankind/ church(es).

11 minutes ago, Vendtre said:

I really hate this passive aggressive "if you don't agree with me you are not saved" stunt so many Christians try to pull. 

It only serves to drive people away from Christ, not towards him

Correct - but realize "many Christians try to pull" does not affect nor refer to the ones set apart by Yahweh for Himself, whether the 144,000 or the 7,000 who HAVE NOT BENT their knee to baal.

 It drives people away from Christ just as it was designed to do. ((re Richard Wurmbrand described))

 Yahweh still  reveals the Truth to others, who  realize when they meet the True Christ, there is the difference between life and death, light and darkness, Truth and false.

Yahweh DOES NOT LIE like men everywhere do.  He reveals the Truth, clearly.

[enoob57]

22 minutes ago, Vendtre said:

I really hate this passive aggressive "if you don't agree with me you are not saved" stunt so many Christians try to pull. 

It only serves to drive people away from Christ, not towards him

Your comment here shows how poorly you are able to discern written content.... because no where in my post has this been said!
One of the first rules in the hermeneutical pursuit of correctly discerning written material is not to read into the text what is not
stated ... the major thrust of my comments is to stand upon God's Word alone and in this you have deduced the above.  

[Vendtre]

10 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

Your comment here shows how poorly you are able to discern written content.... because no where in my post has this been said!
One of the first rules in the hermeneutical pursuit of correctly discerning written material is not to read into the text what is not
stated ... the major thrust of my comments is to stand upon God's Word alone and in this you have deduced the above.  

You are correct, it was never said, but the implication was clear, that is the passive aggressive part of it. 

[enoob57]

7 minutes ago, Vendtre said:

You are correct, it was never said, but the implication was clear, that is the passive aggressive part of it. 

My friend if you don't understand context you cannot properly discern God's Word... and claiming
the heart intent is like saying you know my heart and only God knows that! I am merely desiring
for you to be able to know God better thru the proper hermeneutic process so that you may be
more useful to Him ... for it is upon His Word that justification relies ...  Love, Steven

[simplejeff]

1 minute ago, enoob57 said:

if you don't understand context you cannot properly discern

That's exactly NOT what JESUS told PETER .

Also, that's exactlyi NOT what Yochanan the Immerser told those who listened to him.