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Who is the bride, of Christ Jesus ?

I read that, it is not you or me , or the believers ,for we are the body, and the friends , but we are not the bride.

for many churches I attended they said ,we were the bride of Christ, ?

I am glad I read my bible, to understand  this, did you know this,?, that you are not the bride of Jesus, the bridegroom?

so why do they say this? if it is not true?

and why is it compared to a wedding?


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Who is the bride, of Christ Jesus ?

I read that, it is not you or me , or the believers ,for we are the body, and the friends , but we are not the bride.

for many churches I attended they said ,we were the bride of Christ, ?

I am glad I read my bible, to understand  this, did you know this,?, that you are not the bride of Jesus, the bridegroom?

so why do they say this? if it is not true?

and why is it compared to a wedding?

I think we will be guests at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb but the Bride of Christ is the New Jerusalem.  There is a lot of bad theology out there but usually because people don't read the Bible for themselves and just repeat what they hear.  Not a good plan.

Revelation Chapter 21 -  KJV

9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

10And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

11Having the glory of God: and her light [was] like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;


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Who is the bride, of Christ Jesus ?

There is already another thread on this subject, so perhaps you should move your comments over and cancel this one. The Bride of Christ is also the Body and the Building of Christ, all of these terms being applicable to the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body). The Bride will become the Lamb's Wife (Rev 19:6-9). Now if you cannot reconcile all of this with your human logic, God does not expect you to "reason" this out.  It is all spiritual and it is all supernatural.  The real issue is whether you believe that Jesus of God.  I don't think you've responded to that, but that is the crux of the matter.


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Who is the bride, of Christ Jesus ?

There is already another thread on this subject, so perhaps you should move your comments over and cancel this one. The Bride of Christ is also the Body and the Building of Christ, all of these terms being applicable to the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body). The Bride will become the Lamb's Wife (Rev 19:6-9). Now if you cannot reconcile all of this with your human logic, God does not expect you to "reason" this out.  It is all spiritual and it is all supernatural.  The real issue is whether you believe that Jesus of God.  I don't think you've responded to that, but that is the crux of the matter.

it states that the new Jerusalem is the bride, not us, we are the friends and the people invited to the wedding feast, we are the church that is the called out ones ,that obey His will, and follow Him, and it says we will reign with Him ,in His kingdom, we that call upon the name will be his people,

and truthfully it does not matter what I believe, its about topic, not me , I am sinner saved, and God is almighty, for in the kingdom of God , Jesus is the king of kings and Lord of Lords ..Amen

and I don't think it matters if there is another post, comments and answers can go right here,

thank you M.G for the scriptures


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Who is the bride, of Christ Jesus ?

There is already another thread on this subject, so perhaps you should move your comments over and cancel this one. The Bride of Christ is also the Body and the Building of Christ, all of these terms being applicable to the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body). The Bride will become the Lamb's Wife (Rev 19:6-9). Now if you cannot reconcile all of this with your human logic, God does not expect you to "reason" this out.  It is all spiritual and it is all supernatural.  The real issue is whether you believe that Jesus of God.  I don't think you've responded to that, but that is the crux of the matter.

I don't think it hurts to have two threads on one subject.  If one doesn't want to post in one or the other, then they don't have to.  We all need to just go by Scripture to answer a question too; the plain answer is Rev. 21.  There is no reason to drag in anything else.  Not sure how the following ties in here:

 

Rev. 19:6- 9

6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

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9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

There is such a thing as "personification", and in this verse the city personifies the inhabitants (the saints). Christ does not have a heavenly “bricks and mortar” Bride (which should be so obvious that it does not need to be mentioned).  But Christians stumble over this verse again and again because they do not bother to go back to Revelation 19:6-9 (which was already mentioned but obviously ignored). So let’s see who the Lamb’s Wife really is -- the saints clothed with the righteousness of Christ:

 

 6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.


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9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

There is such a thing as "personification", and in this verse the city personifies the inhabitants (the saints). Christ does not have a heavenly “bricks and mortar” Bride (which should be so obvious that it does not need to be mentioned).  But Christians stumble over this verse again and again because they do not bother to go back to Revelation 19:6-9 (which was already mentioned but obviously ignored). So let’s see who the Lamb’s Wife really is -- the saints clothed with the righteousness of Christ:

 

 6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

I just posted those same verses just before you.  I don't see that they refer to US as the Bride.  I think we are the guests at the Marriage Supper. 


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Who is the bride, of Christ Jesus ?

There is already another thread on this subject, so perhaps you should move your comments over and cancel this one. The Bride of Christ is also the Body and the Building of Christ, all of these terms being applicable to the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body). The Bride will become the Lamb's Wife (Rev 19:6-9). Now if you cannot reconcile all of this with your human logic, God does not expect you to "reason" this out.  It is all spiritual and it is all supernatural.  The real issue is whether you believe that Jesus of God.  I don't think you've responded to that, but that is the crux of the matter.

it states that the new Jerusalem is the bride, not us, we are the friends and the people invited to the wedding feast, we are the church that is the called out ones ,that obey His will, and follow Him, and it says we will reign with Him ,in His kingdom, we that call upon the name will be his people,

and truthfully it does not matter what I believe, its about topic, not me , I am sinner saved, and God is almighty, for in the kingdom of God , Jesus is the king of kings and Lord of Lords ..Amen

and I don't think it matters if there is another post, comments and answers can go right here,

thank you M.G for the scriptures

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I just posted those same verses just before you.  I don't see that they refer to US as the Bride.  I think we are the guests at the Marriage Supper. 

So what you are saying is that all the saints stand by as "guests" while Christ is married to gold, silver, and precious stones (the components of the heavenly city).  Does that make any spiritual sense whatsoever? Why would Christ have eternal union and communion (a husband-wife relationship) with inanimate objects, while His saints stand by as onlookers?


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I just posted those same verses just before you.  I don't see that they refer to US as the Bride.  I think we are the guests at the Marriage Supper. 

So what you are saying is that all the saints stand by as "guests" while Christ is married to gold, silver, and precious stones (the components of the heavenly city).  Does that make any spiritual sense whatsoever? Why would Christ have eternal union and communion (a husband-wife relationship) with inanimate objects, while His saints stand by as onlookers?

Good grief, Ezra, Jesus won't literally 'marry' a bejeweled city.  He will enter the city for the first time, taking control over that city and claiming it as His earthly Kingdom.  We, as His people, will join Him there.  Rev. 21 says clearly that New Jerusalem is the Bride.  It says what it says. 

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