ayin jade Posted December 18, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,800 Content Per Day: 6.17 Reputation: 11,247 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 18, 2015 21 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: There is no analogy here. I am asking you a question based on your statements. I think the question is very valid and pertinent. If your own brother or sister does not believe, have they ceased to be your brother or sister? According to what you've said, they would necessarily cease to be your brother or sister even though they were born your brother or sister by birth. Am I correct? Show scripture. One thing that you tend to do is ask questions but refuse to answer questions others put to you. I dont play games like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted December 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.67 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 18, 2015 8 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Show scripture. One thing that you tend to do is ask questions but refuse to answer questions others put to you. I dont play games like that. I am asking you to clarify what you've said. Telling me to show you scripture in response to asking you to clarify what you said makes no sense. I answer questions all the time ayin jade. You are the one avoiding my question. I think you are avoiding it because you would have to answer in a manner that would negate what you've said before. I think you would have to answer that even though they didn't believe, they are still your brother or sister. And in admitting that, you would be admitting there are at least two types of relationship of brother/sister you would recognize - a natural one, and a spiritual one. And that is the essence of this discussion. You have been talking as though the only brother/sister relationship that counts is a spiritual one, and natural ones don't exist. Such a position makes no sense in this life and I think you realize that. If there is one type of natural relationship of brothers and sisters - obviously in one's immediately family, then there can be other NATURAL types of brother/sister relationships - brothers in arms in the military for instance. Such relationships are based in the natural world, not spiritual. In the same way, in the natural world, we are all part of the human race, and in a very broad NATURAL sense all brothers and sisters. I don't need a scripture reference to explain something that is plain on its face. I think it's messed up to claim that only spiritual brotherhood exists in this life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted December 18, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,800 Content Per Day: 6.17 Reputation: 11,247 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 18, 2015 I have asked you several times in this thread to post scripture supporting your view. You have yet to do so. I have noticed in the past that you tend to avoid questions and ask others questions. Im not going that way. Until you post scripture supporting your position, Im not inclined to continue answering questions you pose. It comes across as a game you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 1 hour ago, ayin jade said: Show scripture. One thing that you tend to do is ask questions but refuse to answer questions others put to you. I dont play games like that. That's what people do when they can't really defend their statements, they ignore your questions and pepper you with questions. It deflects attention away from weak theology and indefensible comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 1 hour ago, thereselittleflower said: If your own brother or sister in your own family, of your own parents, did not believe, are they no longer your brother or sister? No, we would not be brothers or sisters. If they turned to homosexuality, or radical Islamic terrorism, we would also not be brothers and sisters. Again, I am operating from the biblical standard on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted December 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted December 18, 2015 9 hours ago, Davida said: Oops accidental quote i can't remove! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted December 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Catholics have no choice but to go with whatever their "holy father" says. No point in arguing except to see just how far they will go to defend it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 18, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 600 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,391 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,141 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 18, 2015 3 hours ago, thereselittleflower said: If you had a brother or sister in your family, and they did not believe, are they no longer part of your family? No longer your sister or brother? To be a brother or sister we would have to have the same father..... I would give you that we might be cousins, but not brothers or sisters until we have the same father. and that doesn't happen until we are born again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Zion* Posted December 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,245 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 2,397 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/11/1984 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Light cannot have any fellowship with darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 18, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 600 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,391 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,141 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 18, 2015 8 minutes ago, *Zion* said: Light cannot have any fellowship with darkness. yeah, cause the dark runs off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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