Gift of Healing

[simplejeff]

Remember, in coutnries and places where unbelief reigns, FAITH is neither welcome nor permitted, not even to heal people or to raise the dead to live in Christ Jesus.  In all the countries, and places, where another religion holds power,  true believers are not welcome  UNLESS they're quiet. ((JESUS would still be alive TODAY if He had just stayed QUIET !!! )) 

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Unbelief is upside down faith

[*Zion*]

Unbelief is no faith at all; complete lack of.

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Faith vs Unbelief

– Faith believes the Word of God; but unbelief questions it (Psa 106:24).

– Faith holds fast to a promise of God to help; but unbelief says, “How can these things be?” (Rom 4:19-21; 2 Kings 7:2; John 3:11,12).

– Faith will make you see love in the heart of Christ; but unbelief will imagine wrath in his heart (Matt 15:22,28; Num 13; 2 Chron 14:3).

– Faith will give comfort in the midst of fears; but unbelief causes fears in the midst of comfort (2 Chron 20:20,21; Matt 8:26; Luke 24:26,27).

– Faith will suck sweetness out of God’s rod; but unbelief can find no comfort in his greatest mercies (Psa 23:4; Num 21).

– Faith makes great burdens light; but unbelief makes light ones heavy (2 Cor 4:1; 14-18; Mal 1:12,13).

– Faith helps us when we are down; but unbelief throws us down when we are up (Micah 7:8-10; Heb 4:11).

– Faith brings us near to God when we are far from him; but unbelief puts us far from God when we are near to him (Heb 10:22; 3:12,13).

– Where faith reigns, it declares men to be the friends of God; but where unbelief reigns, it declares them to be his enemies (John 3:23; Heb 3:18; Rev 21:8).

– Faith puts a man under grace; but unbelief holds him under wrath (Rom 3:24-26; 14:6; Eph 2:8; John 3:36; 1 John 5:10; Heb 3:17; Mark 16:16).

– Faith purifies the heart; but unbelief keeps it polluted and impure (Acts 15:9; Titus 1:15,16).

– By faith, the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us; but by unbelief, we are shut up under the law to perish (Rom 4:23,24; 11:32; Gal 3:23).

– Faith makes our work acceptable to God through Christ; but work done in unbelief is sin. For without faith it is impossible to please him (Heb 11:4; Rom 14:23; Heb 6:6).

– Faith gives us peace and comfort in our souls; but unbelief works trouble and trial, like the restless waves of the sea (Rom 5:1; James 1:6).

– Faith makes us to see preciousness in Christ; but unbelief sees no form, beauty, or comeliness in him (1 Peter 2:7; Isa 53:2,3).

– By faith we have our life in Christ’s fullness; but by unbelief we starve and pine away (Gal 2:20).

– Faith gives us the victory over the law, sin, death, the devil, and all evils; but unbelief lays us obnoxious to them all (1 John 5:4,5; Luke 12:46).

– Faith will show us more excellence in things not seen, than in them that are; but unbelief sees more in things that are seen, than in things that will be hereafter;. (2 Cor 4:18; Heb 11:24-27; 1 Cor 15:32).

– Faith makes the ways of God pleasant and admirable; but unbelief makes them heavy and hard (Gal 5:6; 1 Cor 12:10,11; John 6:60; Psa 2:3).

– By faith Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob possessed the land of promise; but because of unbelief, neither Aaron, nor Moses, nor Miriam could get there (Heb 11:9; 3:19).

– By faith the children of Israel passed through the Red Sea; but by unbelief the generality of them perished in the wilderness (Heb 11:29; Jude 5).

– By faith Gideon did more with three hundred men, and a few empty pitchers, than all the twelve tribes could do, because they believed not God (Judg 7:16-22; Num 14:11,14).

– By faith Peter walked on the water; but by unbelief he began to sink (Matt 14:28-30).

– John Bunyan

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Mark 9:24

23And Jesus said to him, "'If You can?' All things are possible to him who believes." 24Immediately the boy's father cried out and said, "I do believe; help my unbelief." 25When Jesus saw that a crowd was rapidly gathering, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, "You deaf and mute spirit, I command you, come out of him and do not enter him again."…

[Pamelasv]

On 2/4/2016 at 9:01 PM, disciplehelovestoo said:

 

 

 

Edited February 5, 2016 by Pamelasv

[Pamelasv]

On 1/2/2016 at 1:18 AM, PaulTimothy said:

 

 

Edited February 5, 2016 by Pamelasv

[enoob57]

22 hours ago, *Zion* said:

Unbelief is no faith at all; complete lack of.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen... and it is seen in those
listed and how it was made evident by their possession of it in their lives   Heb 11

[disciplehelovestoo]

Mat 17:14-20 KJV
(14)  And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying,
(15)  Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.
(16)  And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.
(17)  Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.
(18)  And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.
(19)  Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?
(20)  And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

we know that the disciples had faith, that's why they were with Jesus - but they also had unbelief, according to the Master.  we get more detail from the other account of this:

Mar 9:14-29 KJV
(14)  And when he came to his disciples, he saw a great multitude about them, and the scribes questioning with them.
(15)  And straightway all the people, when they beheld him, were greatly amazed, and running to him saluted him.
(16)  And he asked the scribes, What question ye with them?
(17)  And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit;
(18)  And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not.
(19)  He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.
(20)  And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.
(21)  And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.
(22)  And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.
(23)  Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
(24)  And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
(25)  When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
(26)  And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.
(27)  But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.
(28)  And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out?
(29)  And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.
 

you have to consider both accounts to get the whole picture and understand Jesus' answer to the disciples' question "why could we not cast him out?"

the boy's actions as recorded in verses 18 and 20 must have been a powerful display to see; inspiring natural fear-based unbelief, based on the input of the disciples' 5 senses; this kind of natural unbelief is brought under control through fasting - which disciplines one to not be moved by the 'reports' of one's 5 senses; and by prayer - prayer focuses one on God, instead of what is perceived in the natural realm - so 'this kind of unbelief comes out only by prayer and fasting' - referring to the disciples' unbelief, which bound their faith and rendered them ineffective at commanding the dumb and deaf spirit to come out of the boy

[Alan Hales]

On ‎02‎/‎01‎/‎2016 at 7:18 AM, PaulTimothy said:

Hello I posted this a few weeks ago but I was ignorant about where the proper place to post it was so I hope this is more apt.

 

I hope someone on here can help me.

In June I was diagnosed with an incurable disease and it has basically devastated every part of my life. I have put my life on pause for now as I am on a spiritual journey. 

My past consists of a very spirit filled family but much tragedy. My family used to consist of a pretty good number of people but because of disease many people died far too early. All of these tragedies happened before I was born but all of the miraculous events also happened before I was born. So the faith I have always had was more like "belief." Which consisted of the basics.

Fast forward 25 years, I myself am a chemical engineer, so when I found out I was sick I intially turned to my mind and exhausted every possible option that mankind has to offer which left me back at square 1. 

I figured I was like the story of the guy who gets lost at sea and prays to God to save him, while a boat and a kayak come up to pull the guy out of the water, he says no no God will save me, he drowns, asks God why he didn't save him and God says, I tried.

So I turned to God in September which was in the midst of what can only be described as the worst depression that you can imagine. I lost 30 pounds in a matter of a couple weeks, wasnt eating, was so anxious I couldnt sleep for days, I would pace like a lion at home, constant racing thoughts and I was so suicidal I thought of myself as too worthless to even kill myself, all I would be is a further burden. 

Fast forward a bit, saw a counselor which helped and started to meet with multiple religious figures and spiritual learders weekly. So I went further into it (faith). My prayer life started to increase and things, coincidences, which I hear don't exist with people of faith, started to happen regularly. 

Thankfully my family has ties to many still living spiritual people, one in particular, prayed for me and in the middle busted out in tongues which I had never experienced or heard before and he was the only person I had a physical manifestation from after his prayer, 5 or 6 surges, kind of like goosbumps, but very quickly all in a row. I had further medical testing done which could not pick up the previously detected disease, however still left room for error.

I took to scripture as I did science, reading and researching, studying all I could. After enough preparation I performed a self-deliverance which rid me of all the voices and constant thoughts in my head. Which I was told sounds like a successful deliverance.

I prayed, almost constantly, almost every waking moment of the day I was praying or studying scripture. "Things" really started to happen (which if anyone cares to know I'll post as a response I have a directive for right now). 

I had joined a bible study group and they had been pushing me to be baptized for weeks and weeks. I was resistant, I was still somewhat suicidal, and when I make a commitment to something as big as baptism I don't quit, and my battle wasnt that I could quit on God, but quit on life. I also wanted it to be genuine, I didn't want to feel like I was using God to get something, which I really was all in all, but I didnt want it to feel thag way. I eventually was baptized in late Oct/early Nov. 

I started to research about the gifts of the holy spirit, a hot topic I soon learned, not something openly talked about. I wanted these gifts, I coveted them. Not because I wanted more from God but because, -

Im not acquainted with any of you but if you have ever had something happen to you that no one can do anything about, where divine intervantion is your only option, and don't say your grandma or even your kid was sick yadda yadda, I know these things are sad, but there js something different when it happens to you, something innately different. This caused me to change, my whole perspective on life, you appreciate anything and everything, I havent driven in my car with the music on in 6 months, so I can look outside, feel and smell the air, your desires, aspirations, goals, and dreams all change -

but because I wanted to help people. My family had two miracles happen, both to people who sadly died of other things not too long after, but both were miraculously healed of things with no medical expliantion. I not only wanted to be healed but I wanted to spread the love and the possibilities and the power that is God.

Just before thanksgiving I began speaking in tongues, so for all you doubters, its real, its not fake, and I have even recorded and looked up some phrases that I noticed I kept repeating, and they turned out to be real words in other languages. These languages changed, from Italian all the way to Japanese. Mind you all I speak is a little bit if German, and fluent English and pig latin....ha.

I was practicing this daily, yes you can voluntarily do it, its some not power that takes over your body, I would do it and shortly after I would be exhausted no matter what time it was and I would have vivid dreams if I spoke in tongues before I fell asleep. For me to remember my dreams was highly unusual. Then I started to do it less and almost not at all last week.

Then last Friday I decided to do it right before I went to sleep, I didnt do it for very long, just something quick and I ended up having the most intense dream I have ever had. A dream within a dream, which I have never had before, and it had the D....the devil in it. (A pretty detailed summary of that I also have if you're interested and I would be interested especially if someone on here has the ability to interpret dreams). 

So now what I wrote all of this for, I am looking for a legitimate, credible, person with the gift of healing. Not exactly found in the yellow pages. Don't direct me to any of these televangelists, Binny Hinn, and all his wannabees. These people are frauds, Matthew 10:8 "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give." Jesus was humble, he didn't broadcast his abilities, his apostles did, the believers did, and he didn't turn anyone away. 

I have found some in my couple months of searching. These are people you won't find on TV or on the news or in a legal investigation. These are humble quiet people in regular houses with no microphones, no radio stations, and lead the average life.

The man who prayed over me believes he has the gift of healing. I found an elderly woman who has documented healings near me. I also found out about a lutheran pastor on the East coast after pulling my own pastor's teeth if he knew someone, apparently he knows another but this guy's job could be injeopardy if it got out. Apparently much of the modern church is against people being relieved of suffering at the hand of those blessed with spreading the work of God.

I live in the Chicago suburbs, so in that general area would be nice, but this isnt just finding a good pizza place, this is to ascertain a miracle, I'll go anywhere.

If you would need to contact me perosnally we can figure that out, not sure how lol, but I don't intend on having anyone's name blasted out who prefers privacy.

Thank you for your time, this platform, and your help. God bless.

 

[1]If you want healing, you don't call God's Ministers, Frauds.

[2] Although if you do find a person with the gifts of healings, It would be good to let them stir up that gift and use it.

But the word of God is health [Medicine] to ALL our flesh. Prov 4: 22. So you can believe what God has said in His word, and be healed.

Isaiah 53: 3 says Jesus was a man of pains and acquainted with sickness [Our pains and sicknesses].

V4 says SURELY Jesus has taken our sicknesses and pains.

V5 says By the stripes of Jesus we are healed, Matt  8: 17 backs this up.

1 Pet 2: 24, says, by the sripes of Jesus we WERE healed, And just like Jesus has taken our sins, He has taken our sicknesses.

So you can stand on God's word, and receive healing by your own faith in God's word.

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On 2016-01-05 at 8:00 PM, disciplehelovestoo said:

as i read your post, it brought me back to a similar place in my life 18 years ago.  i was diagnosed with terminal cancer, and the prognosis was 6 months; i've been cancer free and doctor free for 16 years now, and received numerous other healings over those years.  i've prayed with people and seen immediate healing received, and gradual healing received over time; and this is entirely logical based on scripture; i've experienced instant healing and gradual healing in my own body, and i understand why based on scripture.  but there's some things you need to understand about receiving healing from God; it's not that some people have the gift of healing and others don't - every Christian has the gift of healing (albeit most either don't know this or have been somehow prejudiced against the concept) - for themselves - for their own healing - you don't need to go to someone else.  the gift of healing commonly referred to as one of the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit (which i think you are referring to) is something every Christian can operate in - but like all the gifts of the Holy Spirit, it cannot be done outside of the leading of the Holy Spirit and is always directed toward healing others instead of one's self - but the good news is, healing is already available to you, the Holy Spirit is always leading you and everyone else to receive it (His healing power is always on), and the key to receiving it is the simple law of faith - now don't get defensive - you OBVIOUSLY have faith; and since faith is a gift from God and everyone gets the same amount - a mustard seed sized chunk of faith that can move mountains - faith is not the variable; and this is actually good news, because no one is gonna force God to give them more faith.  the variable is what Jesus called 'unbelief'; and this is better news, because your unbelief is entirely under your own personal control.  the effectiveness of faith is the result of the combined and opposite effects of faith (believing God, who is His word) and unbelief (reports that oppose God's word - doctors reports, test results, the body's 'voice' of pain and fear, all the predictions of likely bad outcomes you can find on the internet about the type of sickness you suffer from, etc.).  faith and unbelief are opposites.  let's say your faith and unbelief is like two teams of horses connected to each other through a carriage that you're sitting in, and pulling in opposite directions.  the number of horses on the faith team is constant, but the number of horses in the unbelief team is variable and under your control.  if you have less horses on your unbelief team than God put on the faith team, your faith team will drag your unbelief team backward, and pull you toward life; the less horses there are on your unbelief team, the faster the faith team will pull you toward life.  if you add horses to the unbelief side, the faith team will slow down; once you add the same number of horses to the unbelief team as are in the faith team, a standstill is reached (your faith is 'bound').  keep adding horses to the unbelief team and the unbelief team will move you faster and faster in the direction of death.

unbelief comes in 3 basic forms:

1-'natural' or 'physical' unbelief - where sickness is concerned, symptoms that you feel in your body - pain, weakness, cold symptoms, etc. - this form of unbelief results from focusing on the 'voice' of your own physical body

2-lack of complete understanding of the gospel

3-wrong thinking based on wrong teaching, bad experience - yours and/or others, etc.

" Fast forward 25 years, I myself am a chemical engineer, so when I found out I was sick I intially turned to my mind and exhausted every possible option that mankind has to offer which left me back at square 1.  "

all this stuff opposes what God has said - that He sent His word to heal you - and builds your unbelief (#3 above).  since you've started seriously seeking God in His word and stopped researching the world's wisdom, and exercised faith in His supernatural healing, hope has risen up and you're confident that God wants to heal you - you've reduced this 'learned' unbelief by focusing on God's word.

does this make sense?

 

i edited the post after posting it, and removed the 'if' from the last sentence; that was a typo

disciplehelovestoo;

I appreciated reading what you wrote.

Thank you for sharing. and Praise the Lord for His Amazing Mercy and Grace.