Science and the Bible...

[enoob57]

5 hours ago, Goldenshark123 said:

reply to enoob57

You are clearly not informed as you don't think an empirical fact is true, which only points to ignorance. You call facts nonsense too, which is ironic

Ok so further embarrass yourself.... if you so desire  (!)  Just remember (empirical fact) truth was before you and will be after you
and clearly you are revealed by it! We understand the above statement by ARGOSY... DO YOU?  Love, Steven 

[Guest Teditis]

9 hours ago, Goldenshark123 said:

Reply to sister

When evolution goes from species to species, that is simply a zoomed out version of the tiny changes we observe in the lab. It just takes millions of years. Firstly, a fish doesn't just, evolve into a man, but a series of tiny changes make a difference. Some 500 million years ago, fish started to live in the limit between ocean and dry land, and that place favoured the mutations that were adapted to the climate. They evolved the ability to breathe air over time, and their fins turned into legs (all that is microevolution) However, a million years down the line, those few fish that lived between land and ocean became what we know as reptiles, and you could say that is macroevolution as you see a cross species change.

If you had a couple-hundred or so species of fish that could live in both the water and land... transitional species...

your little story might be more believable. But you don't, see? We have a couple of fish that can some on to dry land

for an hour or two, but that's it. Where did all your transitional species go? Don't you ever question these things?

Evolution just plain ol' doesn't make sense.

[Goldenshark123]

Reply to Teditis

I was not meaning that fish survive out of water without the needed adaptations, rather that fish evolved to that they could walk, breathe oxygen ect.

Where did the transitional species go? They evolved

Evolution makes perfect sense, and it is creationism that has no evidence. Evolution does not make sense to you because you clearly don't understand it. As I said before, religion is just an alternative for thise who don't understand science

[Goldenshark123]

Reply to Argosy

What you just said is complete nonsense, and the reason you don't think evolution is true is that you don't understand it properly. The difference is that I understand the creation argument, but see that it is illogical and complete nonsense. Evolution us 100% true. So please provide me some evidence that god exists.

[Goldenshark123]

Reply to enoob57

Truth has been going on for billions of years, and will continue to go on for an untold amount of time. We know evolution is true because we have tested it.

[Guest Teditis]

27 minutes ago, Goldenshark123 said:

Reply to Teditis

I was not meaning that fish survive out of water without the needed adaptations, rather that fish evolved to that they could walk, breathe oxygen ect.

Where did the transitional species go? They evolved

Evolution makes perfect sense, and it is creationism that has no evidence. Evolution does not make sense to you because you clearly don't understand it. As I said before, religion is just an alternative for thise who don't understand science

If they evolved to a state where they could come and go out of the water environment and into the terrestrial environment

would take millions of years for those adaptations to take place and there should be plenty of evidence in the fossil record.

But there is none. Also, many of those transitional species would have survived quite well in those intermediate stages, but

there's none of them around either. That's all scientific fact! It's you who don't seem to understand that to make a theory work

you have to have supporting evidence... which you don't. The theory is dead in the water.

Pseudo-science is the alternative of those who reject the obvious and prefer to live in denial and make-believe land.

[ARGOSY]

13 hours ago, Goldenshark123 said:

Reply to Argosy

What you just said is complete nonsense, and the reason you don't think evolution is true is that you don't understand it properly. The difference is that I understand the creation argument, but see that it is illogical and complete nonsense. Evolution us 100% true. So please provide me some evidence that god exists.

I do actually understand evolution. A gene is supposed to duplicate and then gain new functions over time when it duplicates. This is nice in theory, but in reality when a gene duplicates and remains active , then the additional proteins caused by the additional gene cause damage to the organism. The organism has then reduced fitness (less likely to breed) and the mutated lineage dies off via natural selection. This is what happens when you gain active coding genes (genes that still produce proteins). To imagine that the novel gene will be favorable to a species is just fantasy. To imagine that it will code itself new functions is even more fantasy.

[Kan]

17 hours ago, Goldenshark123 said:

Reply to enoob57

Truth has been going on for billions of years, and will continue to go on for an untold amount of time. We know evolution is true because we have tested it.

Have you tested God?

How would you do that?

That is a private matter between you and God. Here is a great opportunity for you to discover God for yourself. It is up to you to find out what to ask of God, and how to ask.

God has been waiting for a long time for you to be able to recognize Him. No better time than today.

The God of the universe does not necessarily want you to be informed by others, He has paid a very big price to connect with you personally, as if there were no other human being on earth. But it is your choice to remain away or not.

We all would love you to find your connection with God.

[siegi91]

On 25 February 2016 at 9:47 PM, Ezra said:

Where did you get this strange idea? Why don't you read the creation account in the Bible? While all creatures have a skeleton, muscles, limbs, organs, nerves, etc. they are certainly not identical. And man was created in the "image" and "likeness" of God, which makes human being different from all other creatures.

Well, every species is unique. A spider is unique when compared with no spiders.

i think that "being unique" does not warrant any conclusion that has theological relevance. 

But my point is: why does my human ego feel slightly disturbed when I watch a movie about gorillas or chimpanzees, but I do not when I watch a movie about insects or arachnids?

Why hasn't God created me so that I do not feel disturbed when I watch a documentary about apes? Why am I so similar to them, and so vastly different from a spider, if I do not share a common ancestor with them? What is so special about great apes to convince God to make the very reason He created the whole Universe for, look so morphologically similar to them?

Don't you think evolution is a more plausible explanation?

 

 

 

 

Edited March 2, 2016 by siegi91

[Ezra]

39 minutes ago, siegi91 said:

But my point is: why does my human ego feel slightly disturbed when I watch a movie about gorillas or chimpanzees, but I do not when I watch a movie about insects or arachnids?

Not sure why anyone would be "disturbed" about watching gorillas or chimpanzees.  While there are many similarities, the differences are more crucial.  And ultimately we turn to Scripture for the answers.  The uniqueness of man is that men can communicate with God, men can create, and that God became Man for our redemption. That should give you food for thought.  

As to evolution, there is no tangible evidence for evolution whatsoever. It is all conjecture, and even Darwin recognized this.