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Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the city shall be built to the LORD from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.
And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath.
And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the LORD; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.
Jeremiah 31:31-40

And The Gentles Who Love Her

I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,  And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth. Isaiah 62:6-7

What~!

Is Ephraim my dear son? is he a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 31:20

And You Thought KING Jesus Forgot His Beloved Nation?

The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. Joel 3:16

Love, Your Brother Joe


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Let's simplify things.

THE CHURCH = ONE BODY = BELIEVING JEWS (good olive tree) + BELIEVING GENTILES (wild olive tree) = CHILDREN OF GOD = HEIRS OF GOD and JOINT HEIRS WITH CHRIST. 

I notice that Jeff did not mention "the Church" or "the Body" in his post, yet he is talking about this entity.

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On ‎1‎/‎22‎/‎2016 at 6:55 PM, Ezra said:
On ‎1‎/‎21‎/‎2016 at 8:56 AM, SINNERSAVED said:

After much careful study , I have been looking at many scriptures that places the Gentiles not as aliens and Gentiles and foreigners any more ,but the chosen people of the Lord, He does not see the Gentile as out side of Israel anymore, wants we become born again , or saved,

for all that CALLS UPON THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED, AND FOR EVERY ONE THAT IS IN CHRIST JESUS IS SAVED OF JESUS,

WE are told through out the Bible we are the lords people now ,  , a royal priesthood, saints the called out ones, people of the most high.

we are told that the church which we separate our selves today from israel is not correct for there was the assembly of the Israel people way before the churches sprung up in the days of Jesus ,we are told that for the saved Gentiles are to be like the Israel people for we are all one in spirit and one under the same God, so there is no more separation or division between us, and so many today in the preaching calls us separate ,and not like the people of Israel, ethically yes and location yes, but when the true church is called out of the earth to God when he raptures us ,it will be all that has been saved by the blood and that has placed there faith in Him, for we are all covered by the blood of Christ and so we are given grace to eternal  life , and not death of the second death , and so the laws that pertain to the Israel people ,pertains top us also , for we are all one people and one nation,

and gentiles represent other nations not of God,,

so you may agree or not agree but I find this very interesting, for many jews want to be Christians when they see how Jesus is lord, and the Christians wanting to be jews for the royal people that is stated to be Gods little nation  so with that said, there is many scriptures that make us all one , and there is no difference between jew and gentile, as stated by the apostles and the through out the bible,, if I am wrong and I know I am not , feel free to respond, I will look up the scriptures to this, and post  later, I wanted to get this out while it was fresh in my head, I also have  a video that explains and covers all the scriptures to facts of his , that I am stating, I already posted it on the thread of covenant vs covenant it is by ministries 119 and the video is called grafted, which is us the gentiles the wild branches, coming in to the fold, now this does not exclude the jews that will come back in the end.

I would think what I was taught in Christian churches, are not in line with this , and they and many continue to separate us , spiritually, even though we cannot change who we are , but we are all one in God the father, and the son Jesus who has saved us from our selves  and death

I hope no one takes this as bring in new teachings, but it is not new , and its all through the bible , and so I am not out of line to bring this to the table for examination and conversation and posts for comments and responses , thank you and blessings

 

Hello sinner saved. I believe you are mistaken here. It seems you are speaking of things said in Ephesians?  So many read Ephesians 2 outside of the cultural context of both first century Judaism as well as the law of Moses IMO. Ephesians 2 when speaking of being aliens from citizenship and being without Christ in the world, spoke of in times past, according to the Mosaic covenant at Sinai..

As you said covenant vs covenant. These passages therefore speak of "priesthoods" based upon the two covenants made with Abraham found in the law. And the high priest being an anointed one (CHRISTOS). So you have Christos vs Christos as well.

How were Gentiles aliens and strangers to the promises without a Levitical CHRISTOS in the world?

The high priest entered into the very house of God, as a representative agency for the twelve tribes. Mosaic law required circumcision to gain tribal affiliation. Circumcision therefore afforded inclusion as a member of the nation of Israel through the Levitical Christ. The uncircumcised had no anointed one to appear before God on their behalf. The stones engraved with the names of the twelve tribes were on both the high priests shoulders, six on each. As well as all twelve on his breastplate of decision, as is spoken here.

Ex 28:29  And Aaron shall bear the names of the children of Israel in the breastplate of judgment upon his heart, when he goeth in unto the holy place, for a memorial before the LORD continually.

Furthermore, if you continue reading Ephesians you will find that NOW the Jew and Gentile both have access in Christ Jesus.

Again, the household of God, is speaking of the priesthood. The common Israelite could not enter into Gods house to appear before God. Therefore he needed a priest to do so on his behalf. Even the common priest could not enter the holiest of all in Gods house. The law in fact says the Israelite is a stranger in Gods house as this verse shows.

Ex 29:33 And they shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof, because they are holy. We also get a picture of the Lord's supper here. instating the new covenant priestly feast.

Therefore in Christ Jesus both Jew and Gentile gain access with the holy ones, into the very holiest of all in the heavenly temple.

 


 

 

 

 


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34 minutes ago, Joline said:

Ex 29:33 And they shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof, because they are holy. We also get a picture of the Lord's supper here. instating the new covenant priestly feast.

You're right.

I think more than you realize.

It's not just a picture.

It is a shadow of what was to come.

What the shadow points to cannot be less substantial or real than the shadow.

 

 

 

 

 

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