I Stumbled On This

[natasha]

1 minute ago, thereselittleflower said:

oh my gosh . . . <facepalm>

How did you turn a question I asked RevelationWriter into something about what I believe?

 

 

Because it's the question and answer forum?  and I ask if I am not sure? 

[thereselittleflower]

2 minutes ago, natasha said:

Because it's the question and answer forum?  and I ask if I am not sure? 

did my response above clarify things for you?

[natasha]

Just now, thereselittleflower said:

And so I am wondering if you are deliberately trying to confuse issues?

 

no

 

in fact, I am no longer confused about the posts

thanks

 

 

[RevelationWriter]

Okay friends I'm not going to quote anyone. As it does not seem to be working out for me to do so.

- I ask God once, what does it mean that we are 'gods' too.

He said, it means we are immortal as He is.

Because we are adopted-chosen as God's children. Jesus has no adoption. He is "The Only Begotten God" "THE Son Of God" born of The Holy Spirit. But we must be born-again.

[natasha]

sorry  was just getting interesting for me

[thereselittleflower]

5 minutes ago, RevelationWriter said:

Okay friends I'm not going to quote anyone. As it does not seem to be working out for me to do so.

- I ask God once, what does it mean that we are 'gods' too.

He said, it means we are immortal as He is.

Because we are adopted-chosen as God's children. Jesus has no adoption. He is "The Only Begotten God" "THE Son Of God" born of The Holy Spirit. But we must be born-again.

What you can do to make it easier to quote is hit the "+" sign to multi quote, then a multiquote button popos up on the lower right of your screen, then before you actually use it, put several returns in your post, then go back up to the first line and hit the multiquote button.

That way will have given yourself space below the quote before you even put it in.

 

So now back to your post.

 

Are you saying that Jesus is a god like we are and that's what it means to say Jesus is God?

 

 

 

 

[RevelationWriter]

Okay little flower, when John stated,

"IN the BEGINNING WAS the word and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God" (?)

This is past tense. In the beginning was one certain time frame.

it didn't mean before the beginning nor after the beginning. But only "IN The BEGINNING" when God's word WAS with Him WAS His word then Him.

[thereselittleflower]

18 minutes ago, RevelationWriter said:

Okay little flower, when John stated,

"IN the BEGINNING WAS the word and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God" (?)

This is past tense. In the beginning was one certain time frame.

it didn't mean before the beginning nor after the beginning. But only "IN The BEGINNING" when God's word WAS with Him WAS His word then Him.

 

OK let's look at this:

God has no beginning, no end.

So this is not about the beginning of God.

This is referring to the beginning of time, of God's creation.

IN the beginning of time, all there was was GOD.   To say in the beginning was the Word is to say the same thing as one says about God.   And John goes on to explain and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

The reason this is in the past tense is because John is talking about a point where everything began - and at that point all this was true.

This does not mean that any of this wasn't true before that point, or after that point.

He's  just speaking of that point.

One cannot take from this that this wasn't true before that point or after that point.

John does not say 'in the beginning the Word began' - He says the Word WAS -  so the Word already existed before the beginning to simply already be there when the beginning began.

 

 

If I were to say in kindergarten I was a girl, would that mean before kindergarten I wasn't a girl?  Or after kindergarten I wasn't a girl?

No

 

Same thing here.

 

So could you explain to me, how the Word was God?

 

 

 

[RevelationWriter]

No Jesus is not God like us; for it is us who are 'Christlike'.

[thereselittleflower]

Just now, RevelationWriter said:

No Jesus is not God like us; for it is us who are 'Christlike'.

 

So Jesus is 'Godlike'?