i was asked not to attend my church

[apothanein kerdos]

Do you think the problem with your church is that everyone is legalistic? Your church is devoid of grace...fix that and your problem will be solved.

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That sounds great but in reality most of the time an 'underling' with a problem isn't going to make that much difference unless the leadership will back the person.

Most times the problem is only 'fixed' by leaving.

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Amazingly enough God used "underlings" to spread His message. God will use anyone and everyone...we merely need to follow. If people listen, great, if not, so what?

[Keith]

Amazingly enough God used "underlings" to spread His message. God will use anyone and everyone...we merely need to follow. If people listen, great, if not, so what?

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Amen, SuperJew! We are called to preach the gospel to the lost, not to convince them or argue with them about it.

[jamie]

Do you think the problem with your church is that everyone is legalistic? Your church is devoid of grace...fix that and your problem will be solved.

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That sounds great but in reality most of the time an 'underling' with a problem isn't going to make that much difference unless the leadership will back the person.

Most times the problem is only 'fixed' by leaving.

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Amazingly enough God used "underlings" to spread His message. God will use anyone and everyone...we merely need to follow. If people listen, great, if not, so what?

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I agree God always raises up the underdog, I was just stating what I've saw happen as far as the system goes. I used quotation when I said underling, I used it with sarcasm because thats what some leaders think that those without a title are.

[soulwinner]

ive learned from this situation and believe it will help me in the future to love people. I will preach what i believe is the truth as God has shown me but we need to speak the truth in love too many pastors beat the sheep we need to stand up for truth of course but not all of your followers in a church will believe the way you do 100% of the time but because ive believed differently now im an outcast.

[JesusisGod2]

ive learned from this situation and believe it will help me in the future to love people. I will  preach what i believe is the truth as God has shown me but we need to speak the truth in love too many pastors beat the sheep we need to stand up for truth of course but not all of your followers in a church will believe the way you do 100% of the time but because ive believed differently now im an outcast.

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Brother it sounds to me, like God is calling you out of this church. Never mind what they think, we need to be concerned with what God thinks.

If you see them doing something contrary to what God has shown you. Then go and tell them (which I understand that you already have) and if they refuse to listen, bring the elders with you and if the same results, I would consider leaving. It is written somewhere:

"Can two walk together unless they agree?"

Also be careful to look to yourself and be careful to not become condemning but leave room for God to judge, for His judgement is righteous.

God shows us things that are hard to take at times, not because we are more spiritual or because we have more bible knowledge than the others, but for the purpose of prayer, for restoration, and sometimes to confront.

God is in control., seek His face and continue to read His word and pray, and remember, Jesus was treated like an outcast as well, we need to be about His business, not the business of the "church".

I'll be praying with you.

God bless

Kevin

[DearJudy,OurLord]

ive learned from this situation and believe it will help me in the future to love people. I will

[Guest NewPilgrim]

Soulwinner, you have been the member of a fundamentalist church, in particular one which considers the KJV to be crucial to salvation. It seems you have some doubts and concerns over the truth of that and the best place to explore those possibilities is away from any prejudice, alone with God. Stay away from your church, even if only for a while. Study your bible by yourself with serious quiet contemplation, be open to prompting from God. Read your KJV, stick with it, if thats where you feel "safest"...theres nothing wrong with that.

Your KJV will tell you the same about the means of salvation as any bible will, learn about salvation through Christ, read what he requires of us, listen to his teachings, study them in detail and tell God what these things mean to you, then listen for his response.

Shake the dust off your feet brother and spend some time alone with your God, he will speak to you.

Shalom.

[Work in Progress]

SW, I hesitate to respond in these types of threads because it's never good to hear only one side of the story. However, if it is exactly as you say, then the guy is a jerk and you're much better off out of there. Not sure why you are so upset - aren't you glad to be out of a condemning, legalistic church that has an adultering jerk in the pulpit that yells at people that they are "gonna fry like a sausage in hell"?? Am I missing something?? If you step in you-know-what, then wipe it off your shoe, move on and never look back. And be thankful you weren't sucked in deeper and turned into what they are. JMO.

I really hope you find a nice, loving church that preaches the uncompromising Word of God. Don't get discouraged.

[soulwinner]

l little off the pastor brother teaches and he is in open adultery the jerk part was correct though. It's just that you expect to be treated badly from the world but not from other christians and it blindsided me.

[soulwinner]

not stepping in it anymore. I do believe God wanted me out of there i dont need to be around that type of preaching but it's sad because we live in a fairly small city and alot of my wife and I's friends go there, and no they are not legalistic with the exception of the pastor and one other family, but the pastor was not that way when i joined