If God is God, then How did God become from the Beginning ?

[SINNERSAVED]

5 minutes ago, Ezra said:

You mean "accept" that. 

yes accept, my fingers are way ahead of my brain tonight, lol

[SINNERSAVED]

12 minutes ago, Butero said:

I think most people ask this question at some time in their life, and I have too.  I took this question to God one day, and I believe that he gave me this answer, but since I can't verify it with scripture, you can take it or leave it.  I believe the answer is that time is a creation for our benefit.  Since we are so obsessed with time and calendars, for obvious reasons, we can't comprehend what it is like when time doesn't exist.  We feel like if we simply go back far enough, we must be able to find a time when nothing, including God existed, but that is not the case, because without time, there doesn't have to be a beginning. 

Again, I would never expect anyone to accept something like that without scripture to back it up, but the Bible says that freely you have received, freely give, so I am putting it out there for your consideration.  There will be no bad feelings if you completely reject what I said. 

that was a great observation on your part , brother, and I can agree with you, for it is the toughest question, many would ask, and really not able in our minds to comprehend, so this was a very great answer, and I really appreciate it, I am convinced, \

that God is out side of time, and so we would never ,be able to find His birth certificate, Lol , got to get a good laugh in there,

 God is Good brother ,each and every day , AMEN....

[RustyAngeL]

On 3/11/2016 at 11:20 AM, SINNERSAVED said:

I love God and the son of God jesus and we follow the bible as the word of God, and all scripture is given to man for learning and teaching and for the way we should and need to live,  and we can all agree with this I  believe, so this is to provoke  a thought to who is God, and why we believe He is God,

I believe in a firm and sound foundation in what I believe, and I know that over forty different authors of the book we call the bible could not just be with out divine influence and spiritual input..?

NOW, if God is God, and He was from the beginning and ever lasting, then was there ever , a Beginning to God, ?

 for we believe in  the God of the bible that we are taught , but we need to be responsible, to learn who is God, and how He came to be, ?

if He made you and me , then we are to know , did God have a beginning, or was He always God ?

 I know that jesus was God in the spirit and in the flesh, but , where did , God come from when we say or read the scripture, in the beginning was the word and the word was with God, and the word was God, is this God the Father or describing the son of God Jesus, bible wise to us, as humans,

for we know this that we did not just appear from a big bang, but there is a creator , of great awesomeness that could create you and me and all that is , so , what do you say , can any give comment or response to anything that we can go back on, ,

blessings  and peace everyone,

I don't think anyone can answer this.  God always has been and always will be.  I don't understand it but I do believe it.  I don't need to figure it out, my job is to walk by faith and not by sight.

[Riverwalker]

This "beginning" you speak of...is a function of time.   God created time, God is transcended of time. There is no before or after for God.

Edited March 12, 2016 by Riverwalker

[RustyAngeL]

Right. God can redeem time. He created time.  There is not time in God there is only eternity.

[RustyAngeL]

20 hours ago, newnature said:

There is a before heaven, but one must follow the figure of speech trial God provide to tell the story. It is a cool story, but a long one. 

I have no idea what you just said.  What is a "before Heaven?"  And what story are you trying to tell.  You said   it's a long story try and shorten it up.  Are you a believer?  Are a born again Christian?

[other one]

1 hour ago, RustyAngeL said:

I have no idea what you just said.  What is a "before Heaven?"  And what story are you trying to tell.  You said   it's a long story try and shorten it up.  Are you a believer?  Are a born again Christian?

OK, I'm interested....

[newnature]

Let's roll on this. So we come to the fifth 'a day' and we see whatever kind of life being killed off over and over again. It seems that God is making an another point to Lucifer, because Lucifer killed off the life on the earth when it was in the first heaven.

 

Then we come to the cave man, that is what was before Adam and Eve. But God did not create them in his image.  Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale. 

 

By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities. 

 

Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory. 

 

So these cave people, they would have to have everything we have,

These cave people would not have a God conscious, like God has given to the human race a God consciousness, the conscious perception that we could say that there is a God somewhere and that ultimately the human race is accountable to that God. These cave people have been smart, knowing how to make a living. Just some thoughts.

[RustyAngeL]

14 hours ago, newnature said:

Let's roll on this. So we come to the fifth 'a day' and we see whatever kind of life being killed off over and over again. It seems that God is making an another point to Lucifer, because Lucifer killed off the life on the earth when it was in the first heaven.

 

Then we come to the cave man, that is what was before Adam and Eve. But God did not create them in his image.  Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale. 

 

By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities. 

 

Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory. 

 

So these cave people, they would have to have everything we have,

These cave people would not have a God conscious, like God has given to the human race a God consciousness, the conscious perception that we could say that there is a God somewhere and that ultimately the human race is accountable to that God. These cave people have been smart, knowing how to make a living. Just some thoughts.