Politics in General

[artsylady]

We believe what we believe.  We rarely change our minds.... that's just the human experience.   We focus on one thing, one belief, and cannot let go of that... or it takes a big breakthrough.  Some have the breakthrough only once when they accept Christ.  After that, no more breakthroughs.  Others have continual breakthroughs...,  But to those who do continue to have knowledge breakthroughs,, it's actually refreshing to realize you were wrong and are changing your mind.... especially if you have the gift of being able to laugh at yourself..  Anyway, this vote seems to be more important than any other.  As a Canadian, let m. e tell you, we are more concerned than we have ever been.  That's all I will say.  I don't want to get into a debate about this.  I have just one request.  Forget whatever your preconceived ideas are ...  put it into a prayer and just talk to God about out which candidate most resembles Jesus and the values he set out for us.  

[other one]

I think one must look for the person who will do what is best for the country......   even if he seems not so nice sometimes.    Some of our best presidents who came along during disasterous times have not been really good people.....    God has used some really tacky people to do his work....   Look at King David......   he was an adulterous murder.....   and God did special things with him....    Moses was a murderer....    Gideon was a wimpy coward....

 

Gods choice is not always the person we would think

[Guest]

Jesus was also a law and order person. There were no grey areas with Him. Neither was He a social justice advocate or a socialist. And He certainly wasn't a liar, a thief, or a murderer.

[other one]

7 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said:

Jesus was also a law and order person. There were no grey areas with Him. Neither was He a social justice advocate or a socialist. And He certainly wasn't a liar, a thief, or a murderer.

and if we could vote for him today, without his supernatural abilities and authority, he would not be our best pick for president.  Without his total authority if he came back today, the same thing would happen to him again, for the people here have not really changed.

[artsylady]

I understand see exactly what you mean Other One.   David, Gideon, Moses....yes, they had faults.. they were human.  like any one of us.  Absolutely.  But were their hearts in the right place?  As a mature Christian I know you  know God is all about the heart... where is the heart at..   I think all of the people you mentioned really did want God's will and his best. Ultimately that was their heart's desire.

[artsylady]

e would not be our best pick for president.  Without his total authority if he came back today, the same thing would happen to him again, for the people here have not really changed.

[artsylady]

Hi Rick Parker

"Jesus was also a law and order person. There were no grey areas with Him. Neither was He a social justice advocate or a socialist. And He certainly wasn't a liar, a thief, or a murdere"e d   I don't know that Jesus wasn't a social advocate.  I think he advocated pretty well for the widows and the poor.   Think of the beatitudes... the meek, the poor "Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

[artsylady]

Having some issues with the new format. lol

 

[artsylady]

Anyway, Rick, I think Jesus was a big political figure in a way, but he spoke out most for the most the lowliest.  Because no one else is.  Is that who your favorite candidate is speaking out for?  

[ayin jade]

1 hour ago, artsylady said:

Anyway, Rick, I think Jesus was a big political figure in a way, but he spoke out most for the most the lowliest.  Because no one else is.  Is that who your favorite candidate is speaking out for?  

Sanders isnt speaking for the lowliest. He wants to make everyone low. 

Jesus spoke of voluntarily giving to the poor from the heart. Not advocating that a big govt take from those who earned it to give to those who were poor but included those who refused to work. The bible also says those who do not work should not eat (of those who are capable of working).