WailingWall Posted January 21, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 458 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/25/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, enoob57 said: It is foolishness to regard one passage of Scripture and disregard another... What specific scripture have i ignored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 21, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,191 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (Romans 14:5)--"One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind." (Colossians 2:16)--"Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WailingWall Posted January 21, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 458 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/25/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 hours ago, enoob57 said: (Romans 14:5)--"One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind." Scripture above does not even come close to mentioning the sabbath or a day of rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 21, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,191 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 hours ago, WailingWall said: Scripture above does not even come close to mentioning the sabbath or a day of rest. You cannot exclude the Sabbath from that context... and if you do it is outside the hermeneutical of the written text! Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a Mirror Posted January 22, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 237 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/27/1974 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. The Sabbath was a day that you ceased from all LABOR. Meaning, Toil for Gain. The Sabbath WAS made for man, A day a believer is given a vacation, holiday, what have you, so that you had at least 48 days per year that you are free to do as you wish, relax, at least a day to give thanx to the one who gave you all days. Now, Yeshua represents the Sabbath, He is the day of rest, A reminder of a future 1000yr sabbath. Keep it Holy, DO NO EVIL, no bad, no wrong, do not make a plan on a sabbath, Just do good at least 1 day a week. Now are redeemer, the LORD of the Sabbath, Has commanded that not just a day a week Do Good, but live your lives doing good. EVERYDAY is our Sabbath, EVERY moment a time of rejoicing, for Yeshua has saved you from yourself. Personal Relationship. Now He walks with you, and talks with you, you can share every moment of your life with your creator, for He abides in you. GOD HIMSELF stated, the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Point blank, the end. Now, If you feel, that the Sabbath is to be revered, good for you, really, JUST DONT think everyone has to be like you. Now the Word says, Let It Be Done According To Your Faith. If you truly believe the Sabbath is for you , you will be rewarded for your faith. If you believe that everyday is the Sabbath, and do good continually, You will be rewarded for your faith as well. Look at what happens when you start defending a personal piece of your faith. Arguments, frustration, misconceptions, varying definitions, negativity. Now, what happens if you agree to disagree and stop and love each other because we are brothers and sisters in the Lord. Peace. Now herein lies the problem with the internet, we do not really know to whom we are talking to, do we? Is it a fellow believer, or is it a serpent? Be vary cautious of the strength of someones position when they are blatantly going against Gods Word, speak with them privately. We do not truly know who they are, therefore do not be drawn in to negativity, bad only leads to bad. Keep it Holy. Do NOT let evil be done on the Sabbath for to let evil be done on our Creators day that He gave as a gift to each of us, Is to let Sin abound, let it not be. It is Our Savior who is LORD of the Sabbath, now we rest IN Him every moment if we soo choose. Every moment a Sabbath moment. Yes keep the Sabbath, the Sabbath of life. Peace and love to you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WailingWall Posted January 22, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 458 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/25/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Just a Mirror said: GOD HIMSELF stated, the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Point blank, the end. I dont understand your reasoning??? If Jesus says He made the sabbath for man as a day of rest why in the world would man look for another day of rest. What do you say to Christ??? Thanks but no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 22, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,858 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2017 If it was still in effect at the time he was here then why in the world would he admit to breaking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakelite Posted January 22, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 977 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, other one said: If it was still in effect at the time he was here then why in the world would he admit to breaking it. Where in scripture is there a reference to "breaking the Sabbath?" You can break a commandment, sure. But break a day? So are you saying that Jesus admitted to breaking His own commandment that He wrote on stone with His own finger, but punished Israel for doing the same? The only breaking Jesus did was to break the Sabbath free from the over zealous legalistic burdens that had been placed upon it by self righteous hypocrites who considered themselves paragons of virtue and the epitome of wisdom. They accused Jesus of sin, Jesus admitted of no such thing. They considered healing cripples and blind people an unholy practice originating from the devil. Jesus asked them however which of them would refuse to haul out a sheep that got caught in a ditch...no-one dared answer, but you and I know that not one of them would allow a poor animal to suffer, yet they protested when Jesus healed anyone on the Sabbath. "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath day?" He asked. What was His answer? What kind of "work" ws Jesus performing on the Sabbath? What kind of work was His Father performing through Jesus on the Sabbath? Jesus gives you the answer. "It is lawful to do well on the Sabbath days". Do you really believe Jesus would approve of your using His healing acts on Sabbath and claiming they are akin to common labor? You are doing exactly what the Pharisees were doing. They, in order to trap Him, you in order to excuse yourself from obeying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 22, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,858 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2017 Yes that is exactly what I am saying. He admitted to working on the Sabbath which goes against the 4th commandment..... he brought us two laws to follow that replaces all the others but those Peter related to Paul. Remember that people in the days of Moses did not have access to God that a born again Christian has through the Holt Spirit dwelling within us. We don't set aside a special day, we go through life with him every day. We're not even committed to circumcision any longer.. If you are not a born again Christian then you are still under the curse of those laws, but if you are a born again Christian you are to live under His commands, not the ones given through Moses. It's not really that hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 22, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,191 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Bible teaches Jesus fulfilled the law perfectly and satisfied the holy, righteous requirement of God in doing so ... all that teach otherwise will answer for their teaching! Here is a good understanding of this issue http://www.biblesabbath.org/tss/515/sabbath.html Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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