other one Posted April 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 2, 2016 30 minutes ago, MorningGlory said: I'm not familiar with the Book of Jasher. I also don't understand why all these extrabiblical books and theores are constantly being brought to this site. Maybe you should read it to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted April 2, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted April 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, other one said: Maybe you should read it to understand. "From then on I heard all things and I understood what I saw; that which will not take place in this generation, but in a generation which is to succeed at a distant period, on account of the elect." Enoch 1:2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted April 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, other one said: Enoob, I don't think this pertains to Enoch, Jasher and Jublees.... they were not part of the Catholic Bible not the intent of referencing site but to show the difference between canonized and non-canonized books... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 2, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, other one said: Maybe you should read it to understand. Have you read it, O.O.? I never have, not one word. Is it important to read it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 2, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, OakWood said: Why not? They are authentic and come from the same source as scripture does, especially Jasher which is even recommended by the Bible, being referenced in Joshua 10:13, 2 Samuel 1:18 and Timothy 3:8. The word 'Jasher' by the way is not the name of a person, it simply means 'upright' because it is meant to be an accurate account of history. It does not conflict with scripture, nor does it introduce any new doctrines, it merely fills in the historical gaps and explains some of the stories in more detail. For example it gives a deeper account of the Cain and Abel story, giving us an overview of what Cain said to Abel just before killing him and how he was killed. It also gives us more detail about the Tower of Babel and gives us a rough idea of the size of it. It also tells us that Noah's wife was called Namaah and that she was ninety-years older than him. Now if we turn to the book of Enoch, there is also some evidence that Enoch was left out of the canon because it conflicted with Catholic ideology but it was widely read by Christian scholars even until the Middle Ages. It was not included in Protestant Bibles because by the time of the Reformation, the book had been lost and was not recovered again until the 1700s when it was brought back to Europe from Ethiopian Coptic Churches and then later on portions of it were discovered among the Dead Sea scrolls confirming its authenticity. Another reason that Enoch may have been left out of the canon is because the book itself states that it was only written to be understood by people living in the End Times. It's quite possible that the Church decided that it was best to leave the book out of the Bible for that reason. You have to be aware of forgeries though and there are forgeries of both books but these have been proven to be false, they also conflict with scripture, and historically they are too young to be authentic. Hmmm....I'm really no expert on this stuff but I'm leary of reading anything that may not fit with Scripture. I am going to check out the Book of Jasher; I'm sure it's online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 3, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 3, 2016 4 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Have you read it, O.O.? I never have, not one word. Is it important to read it? It filled in a lot of Gaps about the time before the flood for me MG. I have all three on my Kindle, but I would have to give some real thought as to what all is in them for it's been 20 years since I read the entire books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted April 3, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted April 3, 2016 5 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Hmmm....I'm really no expert on this stuff but I'm leary of reading anything that may not fit with Scripture. I am going to check out the Book of Jasher; I'm sure it's online. Don't take my word for it, I'm just a man and I could be wrong. Test everything as the Bible tells us...... I've tested Jasher and in my humble opinion, I think it may be true. As I've already said, it's not meant to be scripture but it is meant to be historically accurate. If it is, then it certainly puts scripture into historical context and enables you to understand the early Old Testament better. If you're reading it online, make sure you read the real book of Jasher and not the two forgeries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheir Posted April 3, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,458 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 729 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1950 Share Posted April 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, OakWood said: Don't take my word for it, I'm just a man and I could be wrong. Test everything as the Bible tells us...... I've tested Jasher and in my humble opinion, I think it may be true. As I've already said, it's not meant to be scripture but it is meant to be historically accurate. If it is, then it certainly puts scripture into historical context and enables you to understand the early Old Testament better. If you're reading it online, make sure you read the real book of Jasher and not the two forgeries. I agree Oakwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINNERSAVED Posted April 3, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,195 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2,409 Days Won: 14 Joined: 07/30/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 8 hours ago, MorningGlory said: I'm not familiar with the Book of Jasher. I also don't understand why all these extrabiblical books and theores are constantly being brought to this site. for information, you need to widen your horizons my sister., knowledge is the key , ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINNERSAVED Posted April 3, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,195 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 2,409 Days Won: 14 Joined: 07/30/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 20 minutes ago, OakWood said: Don't take my word for it, I'm just a man and I could be wrong. Test everything as the Bible tells us...... I've tested Jasher and in my humble opinion, I think it may be true. As I've already said, it's not meant to be scripture but it is meant to be historically accurate. If it is, then it certainly puts scripture into historical context and enables you to understand the early Old Testament better. If you're reading it online, make sure you read the real book of Jasher and not the two forgeries. I have the jasher book, so how do I know which is fake and which is real , I did not know there was more then one with the same, name, now I have all three of enoch , and its really deep, I think it is worth it to read it, and think of how the spirit world really is, it gives a new way of the bible for sure, I cannot say if its contradicts or firms up scripture, but its a great read, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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