Water was not created

[FresnoJoe]

5 hours ago, Cletus said:

Can anyone show me where the bible specifically states God created water?

Jesus

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Colossians 1:15-17 ( English Standard Version)

(God) Created Water

Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation. Isaiah 12:3

And Curious Minds Are

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.  Matthew 11:28-30

Even Now Discovering

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. Psalms 23:2

Just What A

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17

Water the Miracle Substance

Wonder

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Revelation 4:11

He Is

[LeavesSeeds]

Just an observatioin - can't go anywhere with it -

but that happens every day on forums open where almost anyone can post (literally, from almost any country, religion, school, etc) , with almost no restrictions.

3 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

.... part of the problem, not the solution.  You selectively choose who is off topic.

 

[HAZARD]

3 minutes ago, LeavesSeeds said:

Just an observatioin - can't go anywhere with it -

but that happens every day on forums open where almost anyone can post (literally, from almost any country, religion, school, etc) , with almost no restrictions.

 

That's called freedom, and God supports freedom. The only thing God does not support is wilful sin.

[LeavesSeeds]

In the assembly of believers following Jesus, 

A LOT of topics attitudes and words posted on internet forums are not permitted at all.

There's much much more concerning that,  but not for here , since EVERYONE may post here.

5 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

That's called freedom, and God supports freedom. The only thing God does not support is wilful sin.

 

[LeavesSeeds]

Literally, the whole world is engaged in wilful sin, except for the remnant.

So, we are in agreement concerning God's Word there.

7 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

That's called freedom, and God supports freedom. The only thing God does not support is wilful sin.

 

[HAZARD]

4 hours ago, enoob57 said:

This is extra Biblical nonsense and cannot be supported by a hermeneutical approach to the study of written format...
The Bible explicitly states sin does not exist before Gen 2:1 backwards!  Love, Steven

Here we go again. Where does the Bible explicitly state, "sin does not exist before Gen 2:1 backwards!" ?

Your continued refusal to believe Scriptures, to ignore and or deliberately disbelieve HUNDREDS OF SCRIPTURES I HAVE POSTED regarding "the World that then was," as Peter himself said;  

2 Peter 3:5, For this (INCLUDING YOU), they are willingly ignorant, For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
    6, Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, PERISHED. He's not speaking about Noah's flood here. The world did not perish during Noah's flood, Noah, his wife. his sons and their wives, and all the animals survived, and there was light sun moon stars, nod empty, void, darkness as in Gen.1:2?

ALL your statements are Biblical nonsense and cannot be supported, or proven by all your ignoring, twisting, and making statements you cannot show Scriptures for, like; "Bible explicitly state, "sin does not exist before Gen 2:1 backwards!" ? "SHOW ME WHERE THAT IS WRITTEN?" if you can?

That is like the statement, The Bible states "God has no form, God has no Image?" I'm still waiting for that Scripture?

Here, Here, Here, look at this, read this, study the Scriptures, Here is where Lucifer, now Satan sinned; Look  Here,  V. 13, Thou hast been in Eden the garden of GOD;  every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Not Adams Eden, God's Eden, before the Earth was destroyed because of Lucifers sin, the restored and Adam was created,

Ezek. 28:14, Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the Holy Mountain of God; holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Ezek. 28:16;     16, By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God; out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

No angel was in any holy mountain of God when an earthly king of Tyre ruled, so this reference is in the eternal past when the cherub himself had a literal throne on earth on the holy mountain of God.

Here we have an insight into the position of Lucifer before his fall, and a revelation regarding the cause of his fall (V. 13-17). The mountain of God occurs 7 times (V. 14, 16, Ex. 3:1; 4:27; 18:5; 24:13; 1 Kings 19:8).

The mountain of the Lord occurs 6 times (Gen. 22:14; Num. 10:33; Isa. 2:3; 30:29; Mic. 4:2; 8:3).

All these Scriptures do not refer to the same mountain in the same place, as can be seen from the various passages.

Ezek. 28: 16, By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
V. 17, Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
V. 18, Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of they TRAFFIC; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

TRAFFIC;

Heb. rekullah, This refers to Lucifers walking up and down, slandering God to his own subjects among the angels until he had all his earthly subjects rebelling against the creator, as well as over one third fo the angels (Isa. 14:12-14; 2 Peter 3:4-6; Rev. 12:4). What ever it was, it is clear here that the behaviour resulted in violence;  and Lucifer sinned and broke with God. This could not refer to an earthly King, as thje ruler of Tyer, carrying on ordinary trade with the nations. It definitely concerns the traffic of a cherub, not a man.

All the trade between nations in the entire world could not cause an angel to sin as here in verse 16.

[LeavesSeeds]

Have fun (or not) with this strange excerpt:

Sirach 25:24-25 Common English Bible (CEB)

24 Sin began with a woman,
    and because of her all of us die.
25 Don’t allow an outlet for water,
    and don’t give a wicked wife
    freedom to speak.....

4 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Here we go again. Where does the Bible explicitly state, "sin does not exist before Gen 2:1 backwards ?

 

[HAZARD]

1 minute ago, LeavesSeeds said:

Have fun (or not) with this strange excerpt:

Sirach 25:24-25 Common English Bible (CEB)

24 Sin began with a woman,
    and because of her all of us die.
25 Don’t allow an outlet for water,
    and don’t give a wicked wife
    freedom to speak.....

 

Sin began with Lucifer on God's Holy Mountain., when Iniquity was found in him. God destroyed the original world Lucifer ruled and all in it, It perished. God later restored the earth and gave Adam, who was created with free moral agency, free will,  rule over it. God allowed the already fallen Lucifer now called Satan, or adversary to enter Adams Eden to tempt him so God would know if Adam would remain true to him before allowing him access to the tree of life. Adam failed but in case he did fail, God had a plan ready which included the Word, who was a spirit being, to become a man with a flesh and bone body, so He could die for mans sins and give us the opportunity to be redeemed upon repentance, and have access to the tree of life, and live forever.

God did not want men to live forever in sin and as sinners so he barred the way to the tree of life in Adams Eden, after Adam failed God.

Gen 3:24,So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

[LeavesSeeds]

Have fun with that too.  Can't prove it.

[HAZARD]

1 minute ago, LeavesSeeds said:

Have fun with that too.  Can't prove it.

Can you disprove it, with Scriptures, answering or giving a rebuttle to the hundres of Scriptures I have posted supporting this?