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49 minutes ago, Ezra said:

You said:

As I understand it, they're trying to tell that one fine day all the Jews will believe in Jesus Christ and will be saved collectively because they is the Jews. 

This is true according to Bible prophecy, but it will happen only at the Second Coming of Christ. Please study all the prophecies pertaining to the redemption and restoration of Israel.

You're ignoring my questions  in this topic Why don't Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah & Son of God?


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4 minutes ago, Ogner said:

You're ignoring my questions  in this topic Why don't Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah & Son of God?

He isn't ignoring your question. 

Romans 11:25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

At this time, Israel is blinded in part, which means some are blinded and some are not. That remains until the fulness of the Gentiles. At this time, there are Jewish people who accept the Messiah. But again, some are blinded and will not accept the Messiah.

 

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52 minutes ago, Ezra said:

You said: Until that time the Jews do not believe in Jesus because of God. 

That is definitely not the case. God is not preventing any Jews today from believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.  So between the first and second comings of Christ, all the Jews have the entire Bible, and they can all be saved if all will repent and believe.  But instead, there are relatively few who believe (these are the Messianic Jews). 

That is certainly not because God does not want them to believe. As long as they only read the OT and ignore the NT, they remain blind. But when they turn to the NT and then turn to the Lord, the veil is removed (2 Cor 3).

 God is not preventing any atheist today from believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.  So between the first and second comings of Christ, all the atheists have the entire Bible, and they can all be saved if all will repent and believe.  But instead, there are relatively few who believe (these are the Christians). 

That is certainly not because God does not want them to believe. As long as they only read the OT and ignore the NT, they remain blind. But when they turn to the NT and then turn to the Lord, the veil is removed (2 Cor 3).

Atheist is atheist regardless of nationality, gender, or race...


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for looking into: TODAY and in JESUS day on earth.

(i.e. it's not true that Jews are not turning to YHWH in JESUS MESSIAH SAVIOR their KING.)

in fact,  that's part of why the answer to the op is no. (it is more clearly true now, with all the subsequent posts).

from somewhere :

TITLE: The Myth of Jewish Rejection of Jesus

by Paul Sumner

"Now when he was in Jerusalem at the Passover many believed in his name...
many of the multitude believed in him...
many came to believe in him...
many of the Samaritans believed in him...
a great many of the priests became obedient."
(John 2:23; 7:31; 8:30; 4:39; Acts 6:7)

"You see, brother, how many tens of thousands there are among the Jews
of those who have believed,
and they are all zealous for the Torah."
(Acts 21:20)


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7 minutes ago, Qnts2 said:

He isn't ignoring your question. 

Romans 11:25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

At this time, Israel is blinded in part, which means some are blinded and some are not. That remains until the fulness of the Gentiles. At this time, there are Jewish people who accept the Messiah. But again, some are blinded and will not accept the Messiah.

 

Yes he is. 

Are Paul's words equal with Jesus' words?

I believe Jesus. 


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IF you believe Jesus, then you believe who He sent also.

If you reject who the Father sends, you reject the Father also.

2 minutes ago, Ogner said:

Yes he is. 

Are Paul's words equal with Jesus' words?

I believe Jesus. 

 


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5 minutes ago, Ogner said:

Yes he is. 

Are Paul's words equal with Jesus' words?

I believe Jesus. 

Ok, all of the NT is inspired by God so since Jesus is God, Jesus inspired Paul's words. If you believe Jesus, you would also believe the epistles Jesus inspired Paul to write. 


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...   That doesn't make sense.   The disciples of Jesus Bible to start with is/  was Torah, all OT.

Also, 2 Corinthians 3 concerning the veil says NOTHING about turning to nor even having a NT.

The Father removes the veil when HE WANTS TO.  (HE explains further, as HE pleases, in HIS WORD).

Remember HE removed the veil from Shaul.

 

21 minutes ago, Ogner said:

 God is not preventing any atheist today from believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.  So between the first and second comings of Christ, all the atheists have the entire Bible, and they can all be saved if all will repent and believe.  But instead, there are relatively few who believe (these are the Christians). 

That is certainly not because God does not want them to believe. As long as they only read the OT and ignore the NT, they remain blind. But when they turn to the NT and then turn to the Lord, the veil is removed (2 Cor 3).

Atheist is atheist regardless of nationality, gender, or race...

 


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2 hours ago, Qnts2 said:

He isn't ignoring your question. 

Thanks Qnts2.  You've clarified it further, and if that is not clear enough, then there's not much more that can be said.

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On 6/2/2016 at 2:40 PM, LeavesSeeds said:

 

You might ask /pm/ message/ George the owner of this ministry, as he lives in Israel and is active there (I THINK).

 

 

Yeshua (Jesus) is the owner of the ministry -- I'm merely the steward. :)

Yes I do live in Israel and yes we're very active in the land! :)

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