OakWood Posted June 12, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted June 12, 2016 7 hours ago, shiloh357 said: We are headed in that direction. Hitler is already being white washed in this country. In the years to come, Mein Kampf will be white washed too. Correct. Already there are more holocaust denial books being published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 12, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 7 hours ago, shiloh357 said: We are headed in that direction. Hitler is already being white washed in this country. In the years to come, Mein Kampf will be white washed too. I agree with SIC I think stuff like Mein Kampf will become more popular. Our world is in the end times. I can compare what the unbelievers will go through in the seven year tribulation to the WW2 Holocaust except a whole lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted June 12, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted June 12, 2016 2 hours ago, bopeep1909 said: I agree with SIC I think stuff like Mein Kampf will become more popular. Our world is in the end times. I can compare what the unbelievers will go through in the seven year tribulation to the WW2 Holocaust except a whole lot worse. The unbelievers? What you mean the ones get beheaded for refusing to take the mark and are not allowed to buy and sell, but then are later rewarded by reigning with Christ for a thousand years? Are those the unbelievers you are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 12, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 1 hour ago, OakWood said: The unbelievers? What you mean the ones get beheaded for refusing to take the mark and are not allowed to buy and sell, but then are later rewarded by reigning with Christ for a thousand years? Are those the unbelievers you are talking about? There will be unbelievers who will be going into the seven year tribulation. But then there will a many,many unbelievers who will come to Christ during that time due to the Holy Spirit still being on this earth. Those who come to Christ will be harrassed and murdered very similar to the holocaust but much,much worse. But then you have all the seals,trumpets and bowls that will also take out millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esther4:14 Posted June 12, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 603 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 12, 2016 This is really a simple matter of an expired copyright preventing distribution expiring, not a sudden resurgence of interest as though the book was sitting and collecting dust all this time by a collective boycott. Therefore, there has been no shift from lack of interest to a sudden interest. It is simply that the ban on printing the book has expired because in about twenty more years, it will be one hundred years since world war 2. The book is now transitioning to the public domain forum where there could be very benign interest in the book. For example, Germans might be interested in understanding how their country came to be in the position they are. Who was this man that was the leader of their country at one point as they still experience the remnants of damage that war left behind. Maybe it would be healing to them. Maybe it could help them continue to develop a new worldview for their country in the aftermath. Many people might have the same benign interest in reading this book as they do in studying Ghengis Khan or Nero or any of the many tyrannical leaders that have existed throughout history. However, basically Hitler can't be responsible for anyone's choice in what they use his writing for anymore. That is the responsibility of the individuals and scripture says the wheat and tares are growing together until the end. So, there are two ways to see something like Mein Kampf inevitably becoming the property of the public domain, for positive outcomes or negatives ones. Personally, I did find it interesting that Hitler designed all of his insignias from his passion as an artist. I did not know that when I was looking at my history photo book of World War two that I have. I was using their uniforms as inspiration for the villains in a story I was writing for a class so it was interesting to learn that he personally designed some of these things. There is always two ways to use information that exist in this fallen state always, for righteousness or unrighteousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted June 12, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted June 12, 2016 1 hour ago, bopeep1909 said: There will be unbelievers who will be going into the seven year tribulation. But then there will a many,many unbelievers who will come to Christ during that time due to the Holy Spirit still being on this earth. Those who come to Christ will be harrassed and murdered very similar to the holocaust but much,much worse. But then you have all the seals,trumpets and bowls that will also take out millions. Nevertheless, you claimed that unbelievers will suffer during the Tribulation. They won't. I don't care if there will be new believers who come to Christ later, they are still believers, and the only reason they suffer is because they are believers. Unbelievers will not suffer. In fact at one point they will be celebrating the death of the two witnesses, and exchanging presents. It doesn't sound as if they are being persecuted to me, it sounds as if they are having a whale of a time! BELIEVERS WILL BE PERSECUTED DURING THE TRIBULATION UNBELIEVERS WILL NOT (unless they become believers at some point during the Trib and then they will). Later on, approaching the end of the Trib, some unbelievers may start to suffer (sores on their bodies and such), but only when Jesus returns at the very end of the Trib or near the end, will unbelievers be punished - until that point they will probably be having a reasonably comfortable, if not a great time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 hours ago, OakWood said: Nevertheless, you claimed that unbelievers will suffer during the Tribulation. They won't. I don't care if there will be new believers who come to Christ later, they are still believers, and the only reason they suffer is because they are believers. Unbelievers will not suffer. In fact at one point they will be celebrating the death of the two witnesses, and exchanging presents. It doesn't sound as if they are being persecuted to me, it sounds as if they are having a whale of a time! BELIEVERS WILL BE PERSECUTED DURING THE TRIBULATION UNBELIEVERS WILL NOT (unless they become believers at some point during the Trib and then they will). Later on, approaching the end of the Trib, some unbelievers may start to suffer (sores on their bodies and such), but only when Jesus returns at the very end of the Trib or near the end, will unbelievers be punished - until that point they will probably be having a reasonably comfortable, if not a great time. Oh absolutely. Unbelievers and believers will suffer during the tribulation. Do you think that the unbelievers or the believers are protected somehow during the tribulation? The unbelievers my take the mark but you have to understand the devastation of the seals,trumpets and bowls that are the wrath of God on earth during the tribulation. They will take millions or billions. The seals,trumpets and bowl judgments start right after the rapture of the Church. A huge devastation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIC Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,436 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 2,625 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1989 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I'd like to say that in a world where pornography is legal and widely accepted, where war is almost incessant and the institution of family is becoming obsolete, where modesty and chastity are considered obscene , where billions of people are perishing without someone to share the Gospel with them, the resurgence of the readership of the autobiography of a long dead tyrant doesn't really concern me much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 hours ago, bopeep1909 said: Oh absolutely. Unbelievers and believers will suffer during the tribulation. Do you think that the unbelievers or the believers are protected somehow during the tribulation? The unbelievers my take the mark but you have to understand the devastation of the seals,trumpets and bowls that are the wrath of God on earth during the tribulation. They will take millions or billions. The seals,trumpets and bowl judgments start right after the rapture of the Church. A huge devastation. I don't know how believers are protected, I'm sure that to some extent they may be, but I don't think believers will be raptured before it. I really don't... I think believers will have to endure it.... but with the Lord covering your back, it may be hard, but not unbearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 Just now, OakWood said: I don't know how believers are protected, I'm sure that to some extent they may be, but I don't think believers will be raptured before it. I really don't... I think believers will have to endure it.... but with the Lord covering your back, it may be hard, but not unbearable. No,only the unbelievers will enter the seven year tribulation. Many of them will become believers. They will not be protected. They will suffer from not taking the mark but they will also perish just like the unbelievers due to the horrible devastation of the seals,trumpets and bowl judgments. You may be post trib. You may believe the the believers will not go out in the rapture before the seven year tribulation. But no one will be protected during the tribulation.I think that some post trib people believe that some believers will be sealed and will not suffer. That is not true. There will only be a very few who will survive the seven year tribulation. Those who are believers will enter into the 1000 year millennium. Those who are not believers will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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