kwikphilly Posted July 10, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,136 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,817 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2016 Blessings Saved One..... That is the creed from the Council of Trent,,,,,,first you have to understand that catechism is merely a book of questions & answers concerning Christian religion which is mostly used for instruction for children & those aspiring to be catholics Baltimore catechism, approved for the United States ,was prepared & enjoined by order of the 3rd Plenary Council of Baltimore (1884),a revised edition appeared in 1949 The preparation of the catechism of the Council of Trent (Roman Catechism)was ordered by the Council of Trent.It was first published in 1566 by Pope Pius V.It was not intended primarily for the laity,it was prepared for the use of parish priests & brought a very much needed uniformity into the teaching of religion,,,,,,,,so I suppose the answer to your intitial question is no,I can say a lot of things about cathocism but I believe someone is ridiculing them & threy must be catholic bashers,,,,,,,, Many people,I've seen it here,refer to the creed of the Council of Trent,,,,,,,,,it depends greatly on which Pope is in the Vatican,,,,,,most did not adhere to this creeds after the 16th century With love-in Christv<Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted July 10, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: I was a Roman Catholic back then in parochial school and don't remember anyone bringing this up while discussing Vatican II. Amazing. Radical Islam was not a clear and present danger at that time. Also there was no Pope Francis winging it as and when required. But the basic teaching is UTTERLY FALSE and opposed to Gospel Truth. Neither Islam not Judaism can be given comfort in opposition to the Gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 10, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,122 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted July 10, 2016 So if I read this all correctly the Catholic Church has considered the Father and Allah the same thing for a very long time...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted July 10, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2016 21 hours ago, missmuffet said: They are not like the Muslims or JW's or Mormons. The real issue is that the RCC has "another gospel", and Paul clearly states that anyone who brings "another gospel" is accursed (Gal 1: 8,9). Please note this applies to the hierarchy, not the poor adherents who have no clue, but truly believe that they are in the one true Church. Salvation is by grace through faith in Christ and His finished work of redemption (Eph 2:8,9; Tit 3:4-7). Plus nothing, and minus nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundeddog Posted July 11, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,370 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 1,054 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/21/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/18/1868 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/8/2016 at 2:24 PM, Saved.One.by.Grace said: h Section/Paragraph 841 it appears to be fraudulent-- the 841 link is not active like the other paragraph numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARRELX Posted July 11, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 132 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/26/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Ezra said: Please note this applies to the hierarchy, not the poor adherents who have no clue, but truly believe that they are in the one true Church. Can they be saved in that situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted July 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.97 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 10 hours ago, DARRELX said: Can they be saved in that situation? Is the Pope and the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church saved, or are they wolves in sheep's clothing seeking whom they may devour by spreading this false gospel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 11, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,122 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted July 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: Is the Pope and the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church saved, or are they wolves in sheep's clothing seeking whom they may devour by spreading this false gospel? I don't think we have the knowledge to answer that question. We certainly don't have the authority to declare it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted July 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 11, 2016 23 minutes ago, other one said: I don't think we have the knowledge to answer that question. We certainly don't have the authority to declare it so. Well Jesus said "By their fruits ye shall know them". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 11, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,122 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted July 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Ezra said: Well Jesus said "By their fruits ye shall know them". yes, but he is the one who decides who is saved or not.... It's one thing to point out people's failures but another to think we can know their hearts.... I don't know anyone who does not sin at one time or another, so I would not even begin to decide where to draw a line. I don't know their hearts so it is not up to me to make that decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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