creativemechanic Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2016 During my sunday school class we were discussing raising your children in a christian manner. Oe person who was raised in church said that alot of times, young people with talent (singing, music etc) go out into the world and use their talents for non -christian mediums (sing non gospel music etc) because their talents are stifled in the church environment etc possibly due to the restrictions that churches will have. Do you think this is true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I'm sure in some cases they are....I've seen it...I've also seen the opposite. Depends on the church. But on the same note even when it is true, some fault still lies on the musician, he or she can choose to go to a church that doesn't stifle it, or they can choose to use their gift to witness to the lost, like many do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2016 56 minutes ago, creativemechanic said: go out into the world and use their talents for non -christian mediums You know. Sometimes being a Christian but not having your music label as "Christian Music" could actually reach more people for Christ. Depending on your lyrics of cores and what you sing about. Because when you label your music as "Christian Music", it seems that only Christians will buy it. The rest of the world will ignore it. I listen to a lot of music. Both Christian and worldly. There are a few groups that do not label their band or music as "Christian music". But if you really look at the lyrics they sing, you can tell that a lot of their music is Christian based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_man1974 Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 25 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 726 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 575 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1974 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I think it was the lead singer of The Fray that talked about this. He brought up the analogy of a painter. If a painter is a Christian, that doesn't mean that he can only draw pictures of Jesus or something like that. So why should Christian musicians be any different? Many of the "true" country and western singers came from Christian roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2016 """In the world but not of the world.""" There is the line. So, a Christian who wants to use their God given talent to sing to the secular world, needs to at the same time maintain their witness and their holy lifestyle. Not many do it. Can you think of even one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted August 16, 2016 27 minutes ago, Behold said: """In the world but not of the world.""" There is the line. So, a Christian who wants to use their God given talent to sing to the secular world, needs to at the same time maintain their witness and their holy lifestyle. Not many do it. Can you think of even one? John Cooper, Michael Barnes, Joseph Rojas, Mark Hall, jason Roy, Jon Foreman. I can go on for a long time. Now, these are all lead singers from popular bands, all are popular, all live a good christian walk, and at least 2 have had their songs on both christian and secular charts. If you cant figure them out, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, The_Patriot2016 said: John Cooper, Michael Barnes, Joseph Rojas, Mark Hall, jason Roy, Jon Foreman. I can go on for a long time. Now, these are all lead singers from popular bands, all are popular, all live a good christian walk, and at least 2 have had their songs on both christian and secular charts. If you cant figure them out, let me know. I appreciate the needless sarcasm, and bless you back, brother. However, Jon Formeman's lyrics are usually distinctively Christian, ....as a matter of fact, this video ill post is one of my favorites... The other's you listed, i have to honestly say ive never heard of any of them.., but i'll check them out. thx. You might be interested to know that among other things, im a pro-musician, and most of what i write is "christian", the other is symphonic. ----- Edited August 16, 2016 by George Removed Video from Post / Reposted Video in the Videos Section / Added the Christian Video Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehMill Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 281 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 206 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/29/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2016 2 hours ago, creativemechanic said: During my sunday school class we were discussing raising your children in a christian manner. Oe person who was raised in church said that alot of times, young people with talent (singing, music etc) go out into the world and use their talents for non -christian mediums (sing non gospel music etc) because their talents are stifled in the church environment etc possibly due to the restrictions that churches will have. Do you think this is true? yuk Nat King Cole Elvis Presley Michael Jackson Whitney Houston are just a few such folk who began in church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,058 Content Per Day: 14.92 Reputation: 5,191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2016 35 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said: John Cooper, Michael Barnes, Joseph Rojas, Mark Hall, jason Roy, Jon Foreman. I can go on for a long time. Now, these are all lead singers from popular bands, all are popular, all live a good christian walk, and at least 2 have had their songs on both christian and secular charts. If you cant figure them out, let me know. I was a fan of Switchfoot (lead singer/writer Jon Foreman) long before I knew he was a Christian. Switchfoot was definitely on both secular and Christian radio stations at the same time. Dan Haseltine, lead singer of Jars of Clay was probably on both secular and Christian radio stations at the same time too. Not so sure about Mark Hall of Casting Crowns and Jason Roy of Building 429 though. I'm not fond of John Cooper's voice of Skillet but he could be the other one from your list. I like Joseph Rojas voice better, lead singer of Seventh Day Slumber. I like Red's first album better than the second (Michael Barnes lead singer), but that's just me. I have a few CDs of all the folks mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted August 16, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: I was a fan of Switchfoot (lead singer/writer Jon Foreman) long before I knew he was a Christian. Switchfoot was definitely on both secular and Christian radio stations at the same time. Dan Haseltine, lead singer of Jars of Clay was probably on both secular and Christian radio stations at the same time too. Not so sure about Mark Hall of Casting Crowns and Jason Roy of Building 429 though. I'm not fond of John Cooper's voice of Skillet but he could be the other one from your list. I like Joseph Rojas voice better, lead singer of Seventh Day Slumber. I like Red's first album better than the second (Michael Barnes lead singer), but that's just me. I have a few CDs of all the folks mentioned. This..... ------ Edited August 16, 2016 by George Removed Video from Post / Reposted Video in the Videos Section / Added the Christian Video Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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