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2 minutes ago, ZacharyB said:

Nope ... this does NOT line up with the 100+ dire warnings in the NT.

I'm sorry- you have interpreted this incorrectly


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2 minutes ago, ZacharyB said:

With this pile of nonsense

Jesus says he uses the foolish things of the world to confound the wise~~~~~


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5 hours ago, ZacharyB said:

With this pile of nonsense, I bid you, "Adieu".

Actually, it's not nonsense. You either believe or you don't. Believers are not appointed to wrath. Either you receive salvation or you receive wrath.

John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.

1 Thess 1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.
 
1 Thess 5:9 For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

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On ‎12‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 4:12 AM, Bill16652 said:
17 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.

 

Please consider ...

If you truly "believe in the Son",

you might really believe what He says ... and act on those things!

And, He has never commanded you to believe in Him and His precious Gospel.

(It's an invitation only, because only those who been enabled by Him can actually do this.)

But, He has commanded you to DO some things (see the 4 Gospels, Revelation 2-3, etc.).

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So you do not believe in free will?  Or do you believe in predestination based on only that or do you consider Gosds foreknowledge of what we will choose?


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2 hours ago, Bill16652 said:

So you do not believe in free will?  Or do you believe in predestination based on only that

or do you consider Gosds foreknowledge of what we will choose?

IMO, you should be specific in who you are addressing.

Speaking of believing, I said:

"only those who been enabled by Him can actually do this".

Your second question is difficult to answer.

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9 hours ago, ZacharyB said:

you might really believe what He says ... and act on those things

Salvation comes by believing-- acting on those things is the result of being saved-- they do not "keep" you saved- they just show you are saved~~~~

IF you do not do those things-- it shows you are NOT saved in the first place--- not everyone that says they are saved are saved- if a person thinks they have to do certain things to get saved, most likely they do not understand Gods GIFT and probably aren't really saved-- if a person is truly saved, but Lives in fear that they can do something to lose your salvation you are not trusting in the power of Jesus Blood to   and keep you safe

 

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6 hours ago, ZacharyB said:

Please consider ...

If you truly "believe in the Son",

you might really believe what He says ... and act on those things!

And, He has never commanded you to believe in Him and His precious Gospel.

(It's an invitation only, because only those who been enabled by Him can actually do this.)

But, He has commanded you to DO some things (see the 4 Gospels, Revelation 2-3, etc.).

Of course we "really believe". How do you think we became born again?


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After initial salvation, a born again Christian continues to believe in the finished work of the cross. He counts on the cross to keep him saved, not himself.


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Posted (edited)
17 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Of course we "really believe". How do you think we became born again?

Sorry, you're missing everything!

Really believing is obeying! ... This is true saving faith, er ... believing!

Hebrews 3 teaches us DISOBEDIENCE proves UNBELIEF.

100+ NT verses are dire warnings to believers

... to walk/live in the Spirit, and NOT in the flesh.

Check your sins ... keep repenting of them!

Only in this way do you remain in a righteous standing with the Lord.

 

Do you want to see the 10 NT verses which teach us ...

only those who are practicing righteousness are righteous!

 

You have read, but do you believe? ...

Jesus is coming back for His bride, who is holy and without blame, etc.

NO ONE gets raptured who is living in unrepented-of sin!

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